BMW F 800 R 2017 vs. Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021

BMW F 800 R 2017

BMW F 800 R 2017

Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021

Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021

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Overview - BMW F 800 R 2017 vs Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021

The BMW F 800 R 2017 and the Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021 are both naked bikes that offer a thrilling riding experience. However, there are some notable differences between the two models.

In terms of engine performance, the BMW F 800 R 2017 is equipped with an in-line, 2-cylinder engine that produces 90 horsepower and 86 Nm of torque. On the other hand, the Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021 features an in-line, 2-cylinder engine with a displacement of 1200cc, delivering 100 horsepower and 112 Nm of torque. This gives the Speed Twin a slight advantage in terms of power and torque.

Both bikes have liquid cooling systems and fuel injection, ensuring efficient performance and reliability. They also feature upside-down telescopic forks for the front suspension and swing arm suspension at the rear, providing a comfortable and stable ride.

BMW F 800 R 2017

BMW F 800 R 2017

In terms of chassis, the BMW F 800 R 2017 has an aluminum frame with a twin tube design that incorporates the engine as a load-bearing component. This design helps to keep the weight low and contributes to the bike's accessible geometry. On the other hand, the Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021 features a steel frame with a central tube design, which offers good rigidity and stability.

Both bikes are equipped with double disc brakes at the front, with four-piston calipers and radial technology. This ensures strong and reliable braking performance. The BMW F 800 R 2017 also offers electronically adjustable suspension as an advanced rider assistance system, providing enhanced comfort and handling.

In terms of dimensions and weights, the BMW F 800 R 2017 has a front tire width of 120mm and a rear tire width of 180mm. It has a wheelbase of 1520mm and a seat height ranging from 790mm to 820mm, depending on the model. The fuel tank capacity is 15 liters. On the other hand, the Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021 has a front tire width of 120mm and a rear tire width of 160mm. It has a slightly shorter wheelbase of 1413mm and a seat height of 809mm. The fuel tank capacity is 14.5 liters.

Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021

Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021

In terms of strengths, the BMW F 800 R 2017 is praised for its strong brakes, upgraded equipment, low weight, accessible geometry, and characteristic sound. On the other hand, the Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021 is praised for its superb engine, quality workmanship and material feel, torque in every situation, playful handling, good chassis, and high-performance brakes.

However, there are also some weaknesses to consider. The BMW F 800 R 2017 is criticized for being somewhat pragmatic and lacking a bit of effervescence. On the other hand, the Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021 is noted for its strong heat development under the rider, being a little too petite for tall riders, and having a large turning circle.

Overall, both the BMW F 800 R 2017 and the Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021 offer exciting riding experiences with their respective strengths and weaknesses. It ultimately comes down to personal preference and priorities when choosing between the two models.

Technical Specifications BMW F 800 R 2017 compared to Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021

BMW F 800 R 2017
Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021

Engine and Drive Train

Engine typeEngine typeIn lineEngine typeIn line crankpin offset
BoreBore82 mmBore97.6 mm
StrokeStroke75.6 mmStroke80 mm
Engine powerEngine power90 HPEngine power100 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power8,000 rpmRpm at Max. Power7,250 rpm
TorqueTorque86 NmTorque112 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque5,800 rpmRpm at Torque4,250 rpm
Compression RatioCompression Ratio12.02 Compression Ratio12
Fuel systemFuel systemInjectionFuel systemInjection
Clutch TypeClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bathClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bath
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
Number of gearsNumber of gears6Number of gears6
CylindersCylinders2Cylinders2
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
Valves per cylinderValves per cylinder4Valves per cylinder4
ValvesValvesDOHCValvesOHC
CoolingCoolingliquidCoolingliquid
DisplacementDisplacement798 ccmDisplacement1,200 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork

Suspension Rear

SuspensionSuspensionSwing armSuspensionSwing arm

Chassis

FrameFrameAluminiumFrameSteel
Frame typeFrame typeTwin Tube, Load-bearing engineFrame typeCentral tube

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons
TechnologyTechnologyradialTechnologyradial

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
PistonPistonSingle pistonPistonDouble piston
Shock mountShock mountFloating caliperShock mountFloating caliper

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsSuspension electronically adjustableAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Riding modes, Traction control

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width120 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height70 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter17 inchFront tyre diameter17 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width180 mmRear tyre width160 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height55 %Rear tyre height60 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter17 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
LengthLength2,145 mmLength2,099 mm
WidthWidth860 mmWidth778 mm
HeightHeight1,235 mmHeight1,097 mm
WheelbaseWheelbase1,520 mmWheelbase1,413 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height790,770,820 mmSeat Height809 mm
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity15 lFuel Tank Capacity14.5 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

BMW F 800 R 2017

BMW F 800 R 2017

With a EURO4 engine, new riding modes, new instruments and new colours, the F 800 R starts the new season. It is recognisable at first glance only by the end cap on the stately stainless steel exhaust. It is one of those full-grown motorbikes that, despite its considerable sporting potential, was designed for the widest possible user group. Therefore, it is absolutely beginner-friendly (throttled), but can also inspire an experienced audience. Its character remains somewhat pragmatic, but the unmistakable, hollow sound of the inline two compensates for this.

strong brakes

upgraded equipment

low weight

accessible geometry

characteristic sound

somewhat pragmatic

effervescence is a little lacking

Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021

Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021

The better is the enemy of the good, this saying once again proves to be impressively true in the case of the new Triumph Speed Twin. The British have worked on the weak points of the predecessor and thus turned the classic beauty into a real riding machine that does not have to hide from modern naked bikes. Unfortunately, tall riders cannot enjoy the small 1200 quite as easily as riders under 1.85 metres. Be that as it may, the Speed Twin is the perfect modern classic motorbike for me - it combines classic looks with modern handling like no other motorbike on the market today.

Superb engine

quality workmanship and material feel

torque in every situation

playful handling

good chassis

high-performance brakes

Strong heat development under the driver

a little too petite for tall pilots

large turning circle

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price BMW F 800 R vs Triumph Speed Twin 1200

There are a few key differences between a BMW F 800 R 2017 and a Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021. In terms of price, the actual average price of a Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021 is about 49% higher. Compared to Triumph Speed Twin 1200 2021 there are more BMW F 800 R 2017 bikes available on the 1000PS.de Marketplace, specifically 16 compared to 13. It takes less time to sell a BMW F 800 R with 105 days compared to 163 days for a Triumph Speed Twin 1200. Since model year 2009 1000PS.de editors have written 20 reviews for the BMW F 800 R and 14 reviews for the Triumph Speed Twin 1200 since model year 2019. The first review for the BMW F 800 R was published on 10/10/2008 and now has more than 8,900 views. This compares to more than 90,200 views for the first review on Triumph Speed Twin 1200 published on 12/4/2018.

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