BMW F 800 R 2015 vs. KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021

BMW F 800 R 2015

BMW F 800 R 2015

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021

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Overview - BMW F 800 R 2015 vs KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021

The BMW F 800 R 2015 and the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021 are both naked bikes with similar engine configurations, but they differ significantly in terms of power, torque, and additional features.

The BMW F 800 R 2015 is equipped with a 798cc engine that produces 90 horsepower and 86 Nm of torque. It has a 2-cylinder configuration and features an upside-down telescopic fork front suspension and a swing arm rear suspension. The frame is made of aluminum and has a twin tube, load-bearing engine design. The front brakes are double disk with four pistons and radial technology. The bike also has advanced rider assistance systems such as electronically adjustable suspension. The front and rear tires have a width of 120mm and a diameter of 17 inches respectively. The wheelbase is 1520mm and the seat height ranges from 790mm to 820mm.

On the other hand, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021 boasts a more powerful engine with 180 horsepower and 140 Nm of torque. It also has a 2-cylinder configuration and a displacement of 1301cc. The front suspension is an upside-down telescopic fork, while the rear suspension is a single swing arm. The frame is made of chromium-molybdenum and has a tubular design. The front brakes are double disk with four pistons and radial, monoblock technology. In terms of advanced rider assistance systems, the KTM offers ABS, riding modes, cornering ABS, ride by wire, traction control, and anti-wheelie. The front and rear tires have a width of 120mm and 200mm respectively, with a diameter of 17 inches. The wheelbase is slightly shorter than the BMW at 1497mm, and the seat height is higher at 835mm.

BMW F 800 R 2015

BMW F 800 R 2015

In terms of strengths, the BMW F 800 R 2015 is praised for its high-quality equipment such as ESA (Electronic Suspension Adjustment), RDC (Tire Pressure Control), and ASC (Automatic Stability Control). It is considered very versatile and offers a balance between speed and comfort.

On the other hand, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021 is commended for its incredibly powerful engine, especially in the lower and middle RPM ranges. It offers a super-agile riding experience and a comfortable seating position. The braking power is also deemed decent, and the chassis is stable and fully adjustable. The bike comes with a comprehensive electronics package, including ABS, riding modes, cornering ABS, ride by wire, traction control, and anti-wheelie. Despite its high power, the KTM also manages to maintain an acceptable fuel consumption.

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021

However, the BMW F 800 R 2015 does have some weaknesses. While it is an affordable entry-level bike, it can become relatively expensive when adding all the extras. Additionally, although it performs well on paper and while riding, it lacks that certain "cult" factor that bikes like the Ducati Monster or Triumph Street Triple possess.

As for the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021, one of its weaknesses is that the shift assistant with blipper is not included as standard equipment.

In conclusion, the BMW F 800 R 2015 and the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021 are both capable naked bikes, but they cater to different preferences. The BMW offers a well-rounded package with high-quality equipment and versatility, while the KTM delivers exceptional power, agility, and a comprehensive electronics package. Ultimately, the choice between the two will depend on the rider's priorities and preferences.

Technical Specifications BMW F 800 R 2015 compared to KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021

BMW F 800 R 2015
KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021

Engine and Drive Train

BoreBore82 mmBore108 mm
StrokeStroke75.6 mmStroke71 mm
Engine powerEngine power90 HPEngine power180 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power8,000 rpmRpm at Max. Power9,500 rpm
TorqueTorque86 NmTorque140 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque5,800 rpmRpm at Torque8,000 rpm
Compression RatioCompression Ratio12.02 Compression Ratio13.5
Clutch TypeClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bathClutch TypeAntihopping
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
Number of gearsNumber of gears6Number of gears6
CylindersCylinders2Cylinders2
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
LubricationLubricationDry sumpLubricationForced
DisplacementDisplacement798 ccmDisplacement1,301 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork

Suspension Rear

SuspensionSuspensionSwing armSuspensionSingle swing arm

Chassis

FrameFrameAluminiumFrameChromium-molybdenum
Frame typeFrame typeTwin Tube, Load-bearing engineFrame typeTubular

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons
TechnologyTechnologyradialTechnologyradial, Monoblock

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
PistonPistonSingle pistonPistonDouble piston
Shock mountShock mountFloating caliperShock mountFixed caliper

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsSuspension electronically adjustableAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Riding modes, Cornering ABS, Ride by Wire, Traction control, Anti-wheelie

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width120 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height70 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter17 inchFront tyre diameter17 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width180 mmRear tyre width200 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height55 %Rear tyre height55 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter17 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
WheelbaseWheelbase1,520 mmWheelbase1,497 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height790,770,820 mmSeat Height835 mm
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

BMW F 800 R 2015

BMW F 800 R 2015

The F 800 R is a motorbike without any real weaknesses, but remains rather unobtrusive overall even after the update. A very positive feature is the overall equipment, which is of very high quality in this league.

High-quality equipment such as ESA, RDC and ASC

very universally usable

fast to ride and still comfortable

The affordable entry-level bike becomes relatively high-priced when you implement all the extras

terrific on paper and while riding, but it lacks that certain something to become "cult" like a Monster or a Street Triple.

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021

The KTM Super Duke R has evolved perfectly over the generations: The engine is strong, has a huge amount of torque and in the current version also works excellently from low revs. However, the excellent interaction of all components is responsible for the overall wonderful performance of the big Duke. The active seating position is comfortable and unbelievably driving-friendly, the chassis is of a high standard, the brakes are powerful and the electronics are state of the art. Even the looks are now pleasing more and more critics. It's just a shame that you have to pay extra for the ingenious shift assistant with blipper.

wonderfully powerful engine with a lot of bang - especially from below and in the middle

super-agile and comfortable seating position

decent braking power

stable chassis, fully adjustable

comprehensive electronics package

acceptable consumption for the high power.

Shift assistant with blipper not standard

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price BMW F 800 R vs KTM 1290 Super Duke R

There are a few key differences between a BMW F 800 R 2015 and a KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021. In terms of price, the actual average price of a KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021 is about 137% higher. A BMW F 800 R 2015 experiences a loss of 270 USD in one year and 540 USD in two years of ownership. This is offset by a loss of 660 USD and 1,730 USD for a KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021. Compared to KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2021 there are less BMW F 800 R 2015 bikes available on the 1000PS.de Marketplace, specifically 14 compared to 22. It takes less time to sell a BMW F 800 R with 89 days compared to 91 days for a KTM 1290 Super Duke R. Since model year 2009 1000PS.de editors have written 20 reviews for the BMW F 800 R and 65 reviews for the KTM 1290 Super Duke R since model year 2013. The first review for the BMW F 800 R was published on 10/10/2008 and now has more than 8,900 views. This compares to more than 4,900 views for the first review on KTM 1290 Super Duke R published on 11/8/2012.

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