KTM 890 Duke 2021 vs. Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

KTM 890 Duke 2021

KTM 890 Duke 2021

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

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Overview - KTM 890 Duke 2021 vs Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

The KTM 890 Duke 2021 and the Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 are both naked bikes with similar engine types and fuel systems. However, there are several differences between the two models in terms of specifications and features.

In terms of engine power, the Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 has a clear advantage with 145 HP compared to the KTM 890 Duke 2021's 115 HP. The Honda also has a higher torque of 104 Nm compared to the KTM's 92 Nm. This means that the Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 will likely offer more acceleration and overall power.

Both bikes have liquid cooling systems and similar suspension setups with upside-down telescopic forks at the front and monoshock absorbers at the rear. However, the KTM 890 Duke 2021 features WP suspension components, while the Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 is equipped with Showa suspension. The Honda also offers more adjustability options for the rear suspension, including compression, preload, and rebound adjustments.

KTM 890 Duke 2021

KTM 890 Duke 2021

In terms of chassis, the KTM 890 Duke 2021 features a chromium-molybdenum frame, while the Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 has a steel frame. Both frames are designed to provide stability and strength, but the choice of material may result in slight differences in weight and handling characteristics.

Both bikes have double disc brakes at the front with four-piston calipers and radial technology. The KTM 890 Duke 2021 has slightly smaller front brake discs with a diameter of 300 mm compared to the Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023's 310 mm discs. However, this difference is unlikely to have a significant impact on braking performance.

In terms of advanced rider assistance systems, both bikes offer ABS, riding modes, and traction control. The KTM 890 Duke 2021 also includes additional features such as cornering ABS, launch control, ride by wire, and anti-wheelie control. The Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023, on the other hand, offers a quickshifter in addition to the basic features.

Both bikes have similar dimensions and weights, with the KTM 890 Duke 2021 having a slightly longer wheelbase of 1476 mm compared to the Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023's 1455 mm. The seat height is also slightly higher on the Honda at 830 mm compared to the KTM's 820 mm. This may be a consideration for shorter riders who may find it more difficult to reach the ground on the Honda.

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

In terms of fuel tank capacity, the Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 has a larger tank with a capacity of 16.2 liters compared to the KTM 890 Duke 2021's 14 liters. This may result in a longer range between refueling stops on the Honda.

Both bikes come equipped with LED headlights and TFT displays, providing modern and stylish features. However, the Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 also offers a larger 5-inch TFT display, which may provide better visibility and more information to the rider.

In summary, the KTM 890 Duke 2021 and the Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 are both powerful naked bikes with their own strengths and weaknesses. The KTM offers a rev-happy engine, lively handling, and a buttery-smooth quickshifter, while the Honda provides a more powerful engine, smooth quickshifter, nimble handling, and a classy appearance. The choice between the two models ultimately depends on the rider's preferences and priorities.

Technical Specifications KTM 890 Duke 2021 compared to Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

KTM 890 Duke 2021
Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

Engine and Drive Train

Engine typeEngine typeIn lineEngine typeIn line
BoreBore90.7 mmBore75 mm
StrokeStroke68.8 mmStroke56.5 mm
Engine powerEngine power115 HPEngine power145 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power9,000 rpmRpm at Max. Power10,500 rpm
TorqueTorque92 NmTorque104 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque8,000 rpmRpm at Torque8,250 rpm
Compression RatioCompression Ratio13.5 Compression Ratio11.6
Fuel systemFuel systemInjectionFuel systemInjection
StarterStarterElectricStarterElectric
Clutch TypeClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bathClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bath
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
Transmission TypeTransmission TypeGearshiftTransmission TypeGearshift
Number of gearsNumber of gears6Number of gears6
CylindersCylinders2Cylinders4
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
Valves per cylinderValves per cylinder4Valves per cylinder4
ValvesValvesDOHCValvesDOHC
CoolingCoolingliquidCoolingliquid
DisplacementDisplacement889 ccmDisplacement998 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork
BrandBrandWPBrandShowa
TravelTravel140 mmTravel120 mm

Suspension Rear

SuspensionSuspensionSwing armSuspensionSingle swing arm
Shock absorberShock absorberMonoshockShock absorberMonoshock
BrandBrandWPBrandShowa
TravelTravel150 mmTravel131 mm
AdjustmentAdjustmentPreloadAdjustmentCompression, Preload, Rebound

Chassis

FrameFrameChromium-molybdenumFrameSteel
Frame typeFrame typeTubularFrame typeBackbone
RakeRake66 degreeRake65 degree
TrailTrail99 mmTrail100 mm

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
DiameterDiameter300 mmDiameter310 mm
PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons
ActuationActuationHydraulicActuationHydraulic
TechnologyTechnologyradialTechnologyradial

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
DiameterDiameter240 mmDiameter256 mm
PistonPistonDouble pistonPistonDouble piston

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Riding modes, Cornering ABS, Launch-Control, Ride by Wire, Traction control, Anti-wheelieAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Riding modes, Ride by Wire, Quickshifter, Traction control

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width120 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height70 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter17 inchFront tyre diameter17 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width180 mmRear tyre width190 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height55 %Rear tyre height55 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter17 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
WheelbaseWheelbase1,476 mmWheelbase1,455 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height820 mmSeat Height830 mm
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity14 lFuel Tank Capacity16.2 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA
Stationary noiseStationary noise93 dBStationary noise97 dB

Equipment

EquipmentEquipmentConnectivity, LED-Headlights, TFT displayEquipmentLED-Headlights, TFT display

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

KTM 890 Duke 2021

KTM 890 Duke 2021

The predecessor 790 Duke already proved that KTM knows how to build a mid-range naked bike for the road. The new 890 carries the torch with a puffy chest and once again lives up to its scalpel nickname. Lively, it pulls the radii and gives off a certain nervousness that can be interpreted as a wild character. The equipment is almost complete - but only almost. Why do you have to pay extra for the quickshifter when it was standard on the predecessor? It is all the more annoying that the clutchless upshifting and downshifting functions as smoothly as butter and that one would not want to do without it.

Rev-happy engine

lively handling

buttery-smooth quickshifter

electronics package

does not arouse a desire for the R version on the country road.

Quickshifter at extra cost

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

Noble, dignified and incredibly powerful. The CB1000R Black Edition cuts a fine figure both in front of the opera and on a sporty smoke-up on the country road. Even under full load, the power unit exudes pure composure, while the chassis and brake components also cope well with the power and weight. A great all-round naked bike package that conveys Honda quality through and through.

powerful engine Smooth quickshifter

nimble handling

5 inch TFT display

classy appearance

Seat height could become an obstacle for small pilots

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price KTM 890 Duke vs Honda CB1000R Black Edition

There are a few key differences between a KTM 890 Duke 2021 and a Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023. In terms of price, the actual average price of a Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 is about 35% higher. Compared to Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 there are less KTM 890 Duke 2021 bikes available on the 1000PS.de Marketplace, specifically 22 compared to 58. It takes less time to sell a KTM 890 Duke with 78 days compared to 86 days for a Honda CB1000R Black Edition. Since model year 2021 1000PS.de editors have written 11 reviews for the KTM 890 Duke and 5 reviews for the Honda CB1000R Black Edition since model year 2021. The first review for the KTM 890 Duke was published on 1/19/2021 and now has more than 37,800 views. This compares to more than 97,700 views for the first review on Honda CB1000R Black Edition published on 11/2/2020.

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