KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011 vs. KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017

KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011

KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017

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Overview - KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011 vs KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017

The KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011 and the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 are both high-performance motorcycles, but they have some key differences in terms of technical specifications and strengths.

Starting with the technical specifications, the KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011 has a bore of 105 mm and a stroke of 69 mm, while the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 has a larger bore of 108 mm and a stroke of 71 mm. This means that the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 has a slightly larger engine capacity of 1301 ccm compared to the 1195 ccm of the KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011.

In terms of engine power, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 takes the lead with 177 HP, compared to the 169 HP of the KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011. The KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 also has a higher torque of 144 Nm, while the KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011 has a torque of 123 Nm. Both motorcycles have a compression ratio of around 13, with the KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011 having a slightly higher ratio of 13.5.

KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011

KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011

When it comes to suspension, both motorcycles have upside-down telescopic forks with WP as the brand. The rear suspension also features WP. In terms of chassis, both motorcycles have a chromium-molybdenum frame, with a tubular frame type.

In the braking department, both motorcycles have four-piston front brakes with Brembo as the brand. However, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 has the advantage of having radial, monoblock technology, which provides even better braking performance compared to the radial technology of the KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011.

In terms of dimensions and weights, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 has a slightly larger wheelbase of 1482 mm compared to the 1425 mm of the KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011. The seat height of the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 is also higher at 835 mm, while the KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011 has a seat height of 805 mm. Additionally, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 has a larger fuel tank capacity of 18 liters, compared to the 16.5 liters of the KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011.

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017

Moving on to the strengths of each motorcycle, the KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011 is praised for its improved system, cleanly tuned engine, spacious and comfortable design, and optimal chassis. On the other hand, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 is known for providing the most adrenaline rush, offering extensive configuration options when buying, having grandiose brakes, great original equipment tires, practical electronic features, and a great seating position for tall people. The electronic features of the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 can also be set very sporty and even deactivated if desired.

However, both motorcycles have their weaknesses as well. The KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011 is criticized for having a somewhat strenuous clutch. On the other hand, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 is said to have a shift assistant that is nice, but in direct comparison with other power nakeds, it can be a bit rough. Additionally, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 is considered to be exhausting to ride, and the precise stroke is not always easy to hit. It is also mentioned that the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 is the most dangerous motorcycle for the driving license on the market, although the context or reasoning behind this statement is not provided.

In conclusion, the KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011 and the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 are both powerful motorcycles with their own strengths and weaknesses. The KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 offers more power, better braking technology, and additional electronic features, while the KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011 provides a comfortable and spacious riding experience with an optimal chassis.

Technical Specifications KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011 compared to KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017

KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011
KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017

Engine and Drive Train

BoreBore105 mmBore108 mm
StrokeStroke69 mmStroke71 mm
Engine powerEngine power169 HPEngine power177 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power10,250 rpmRpm at Max. Power8,870 rpm
TorqueTorque123 NmTorque144 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque8,000 rpmRpm at Torque6,500 rpm
Compression RatioCompression Ratio13.5 Compression Ratio13.2
StarterStarterElectricStarterElectric
Clutch TypeClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bathClutch TypeAntihopping
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
CylindersCylinders2Cylinders2
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
DisplacementDisplacement1,195 ccmDisplacement1,301 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork
BrandBrandWPBrandWP

Suspension Rear

BrandBrandWPBrandWP

Chassis

FrameFrameChromium-molybdenumFrameChromium-molybdenum
Frame typeFrame typeTubularFrame typeTubular

Brakes Front

PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons
Shock mountShock mountFixed caliperShock mountFixed caliper
TechnologyTechnologyradialTechnologyradial, Monoblock
BrandBrandBremboBrandBrembo

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
PistonPistonDouble pistonPistonDouble piston
Shock mountShock mountFixed caliperShock mountFixed caliper
BrandBrandBremboBrandBrembo

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width120 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height70 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter17 inchFront tyre diameter17 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width190 mmRear tyre width190 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height55 %Rear tyre height55 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter17 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
WheelbaseWheelbase1,425 mmWheelbase1,482 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height805 mmSeat Height835 mm
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity16.5 lFuel Tank Capacity18 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011

KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011

TOP performance, clearly improved responsiveness, handling at the same level, chassis as tight and high-quality as ever. Anyone who wants to check this out should test ride the RC8-R now.

Improved system

engine cleanly tuned: spacious

comfortable

optimal chassis.

Clutch somewhat strenuous

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KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017

The KTM is and remains the most brutal naked bike on the market. The upright seating position combined with the wild V2 power make it seem more brutal than it is on paper. It has been improved precisely at its weakest points. The engine now runs smoother, the shift assistant brings calm in the acceleration phase and the chassis has been improved. It still loves the wild chase more than high cornering speed on long bends.

Provides the most adrenaline rush

Extensive configuration options when buying

Grandiose brakes

Great original equipment tyres

Practical electronic features

Great seating position for tall people

Electronic features can be set very sporty and also deactivated.

Shift assistant nice, but in direct comparison with other power nakeds a bit rough

Exhausting to ride

Precise stroke not always easy to hit

The most dangerous motorbike for the driving licence on the market.

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price KTM 1190 RC8 R vs KTM 1290 Super Duke R

There are a few key differences between a KTM 1190 RC8 R 2011 and a KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017. It takes less time to sell a KTM 1190 RC8 R with 67 days compared to 70 days for a KTM 1290 Super Duke R. Since model year 2009 1000PS.de editors have written 19 reviews for the KTM 1190 RC8 R and 65 reviews for the KTM 1290 Super Duke R since model year 2013. The first review for the KTM 1190 RC8 R was published on 11/10/2008 and now has more than 8,000 views. This compares to more than 4,900 views for the first review on KTM 1290 Super Duke R published on 11/8/2012.

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