KTM 890 Duke R 2023 vs. KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2016

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2016

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2016

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Overview - KTM 890 Duke R 2023 vs KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2016

The KTM 890 Duke R 2023 and the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2016 are both powerful naked bikes from KTM, but there are several key differences between the two models.

In terms of engine power, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2016 takes the lead with 173 HP, compared to the 121 HP of the KTM 890 Duke R 2023. The Super Duke R also has a higher torque rating of 144 Nm, while the 890 Duke R has 99 Nm. Both bikes have a 2-cylinder engine and a displacement of 1301ccm for the Super Duke R and 890ccm for the 890 Duke R.

Both bikes feature upside-down telescopic forks from WP for the front suspension and WP for the rear suspension. They also share a chromium-molybdenum frame and tubular frame type. The front brakes on both bikes have four pistons, but the Super Duke R 2016 has the added advantage of radial and monoblock technology, making it even more powerful.

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

In terms of advanced rider assistance systems, both bikes offer ABS and traction control. The KTM 890 Duke R 2023 goes a step further by offering riding modes, cornering ABS, ride by wire, and a quickshifter as optional extras. The Super Duke R 2016 also has extensive electronics, but the specifics are not mentioned.

In terms of dimensions and weights, both bikes have the same front tire width of 120mm and front tire diameter of 17 inches. However, the Super Duke R 2016 has a wider rear tire width of 190mm compared to the 180mm of the 890 Duke R 2023. Both bikes have a wheelbase of 1482mm and a seat height of 835mm for the Super Duke R 2016 and 834mm for the 890 Duke R 2023. The Super Duke R 2016 is heavier with a dry weight of 189kg compared to the 166kg of the 890 Duke R 2023. The fuel tank capacity is also larger for the Super Duke R 2016 at 18 liters compared to the 14 liters of the 890 Duke R 2023.

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2016

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2016

In terms of strengths, the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 is praised for its powerful and rev-happy engine, finely controllable response, good optional quickshifter, sporty seating position for great front-wheel feel, high-quality adjustable suspension, powerful Brembo brakes, low vehicle weight, and extensive electronics. The KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2016 is praised for its monstrous engine and torque, wide rev range, little vibration, strong brakes, extensive electronics, great extras, high-quality details, and unrivaled aggressive looks.

In terms of weaknesses, the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 is noted to have a more demanding sitting position than the basic model and a tight basic set-up that may not be to everyone's taste. The KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2016 is mentioned to have an automatic gearshift that is a little too coarse.

Overall, both bikes have their strengths and weaknesses, with the Super Duke R 2016 offering more power and a larger fuel tank capacity, while the 890 Duke R 2023 offers a lighter weight and more advanced rider assistance systems as optional extras.

Technical Specifications KTM 890 Duke R 2023 compared to KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2016

KTM 890 Duke R 2023
KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2016

Engine and Drive Train

BoreBore90.7 mmBore108 mm
StrokeStroke68.8 mmStroke71 mm
Engine powerEngine power121 HPEngine power173 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power9,250 rpmRpm at Max. Power8,870 rpm
TorqueTorque99 NmTorque144 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque7,750 rpmRpm at Torque6,500 rpm
StarterStarterElectricStarterElectric
Clutch TypeClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bathClutch TypeAntihopping
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
CylindersCylinders2Cylinders2
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
DisplacementDisplacement890 ccmDisplacement1,301 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork
BrandBrandWPBrandWP

Suspension Rear

BrandBrandWPBrandWP

Chassis

FrameFrameChromium-molybdenumFrameChromium-molybdenum
Frame typeFrame typeTubularFrame typeTubular

Brakes Front

PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons
TechnologyTechnologyradialTechnologyradial, Monoblock

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
PistonPistonDouble pistonPistonDouble piston

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Riding modes, Cornering ABS, Ride by Wire, Traction controlAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Traction control

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width120 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height70 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter17 inchFront tyre diameter17 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width180 mmRear tyre width190 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height55 %Rear tyre height55 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter17 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
WheelbaseWheelbase1,482 mmWheelbase1,482 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height834 mmSeat Height835 mm
Dry Weight (with ABS)Dry Weight (with ABS)166 kgDry Weight (with ABS)189 kg
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity14 lFuel Tank Capacity18 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

The KTM 890 Duke R is the sportiest evolutionary stage of the 890 Duke. More power, firmer chassis, sharper brakes - these ingredients, together with the already low vehicle weight, make it a real precision machine. A fast and cool bike for riding fun fetishists, ambitious home track heaters and, last but not least, a real recommendation for trackday visitors. However, the sporty positioning of the upper body and the somewhat more acute knee angle come at the expense of comfort. Last but not least, the adjustable suspension in the basic setup is really crisply tuned. If you want to enjoy the powerful 890 engine and the high-quality electronics a little more comfortably, you can still go for the basic model with a clear conscience.

powerful and rev-happy engine

finely controllable response

good (optional) quickshifter

sporty seating position ensures great front-wheel feel

high-quality adjustable suspension

powerful Brembo brakes

low vehicle weight

extensive (partly optional) electronics

Sitting position more demanding than on the basic model

tight basic set-up not to everyone's taste

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2016

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2016

KTM knows no turning back and KTM knows no quarter. That's why the new 1290 Super Duke R is a little easier to handle than its predecessor, but also a little stronger and faster. Already at 2500 rpm, over 100 Nm are available, the maximum is 141, the top performance is stated at 177 hp. That may be too much, but it doesn't have to be. The electronics remain the lifeline in this category, where development continues to move forward strongly. KTM has started where it had difficulties and that was stability. Changes to the geometry and chassis have improved this significantly, making the ride on the beast not only faster, but also safer. The handling is no less radical for that, and the supermoto genes are more evident than on any other naked bike. There can only be one Super Duke.

Monstrous engine and torque

wide rev range

little vibration

strong brakes

extensive electronics

great extras

high-quality details

unrivalled aggressive looks.

Automatic gearshift a little too coarse

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price KTM 890 Duke R vs KTM 1290 Super Duke R

There are a few key differences between a KTM 890 Duke R 2023 and a KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2016. In terms of price, the actual average price of a KTM 890 Duke R 2023 is about 13% higher. Compared to KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2016 there are more KTM 890 Duke R 2023 bikes available on the 1000PS.de Marketplace, specifically 38 compared to 25. It takes less time to sell a KTM 1290 Super Duke R with 81 days compared to 84 days for the KTM 890 Duke R. Since model year 2020 1000PS.de editors have written 15 reviews for the KTM 890 Duke R and 65 reviews for the KTM 1290 Super Duke R since model year 2013. The first review for the KTM 890 Duke R was published on 11/5/2019 and now has more than 126,600 views. This compares to more than 4,900 views for the first review on KTM 1290 Super Duke R published on 11/8/2012.

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