BMW F 800 R 2015 vs. KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

BMW F 800 R 2015

BMW F 800 R 2015

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

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Overview - BMW F 800 R 2015 vs KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

In terms of engine power, the BMW F 800 R 2015 offers 90 HP, while the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 boasts a much higher power of 180 HP. This significant difference in power output makes the KTM a more powerful and potentially faster bike.

When it comes to torque, the BMW F 800 R 2015 has a torque of 86 Nm, whereas the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 offers a higher torque of 140 Nm. This higher torque in the KTM translates to better acceleration and overall performance.

Both bikes have a 2-cylinder engine and similar displacement, with the BMW F 800 R 2015 having a displacement of 798 ccm and the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 having a displacement of 1301 ccm. However, the KTM has a larger displacement, indicating a potentially more powerful and robust engine.

In terms of suspension, both bikes feature upside-down telescopic forks in the front. However, the BMW F 800 R 2015 has a swing arm suspension in the rear, while the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 has a single swing arm suspension. The single swing arm suspension in the KTM may provide better stability and handling.

The chassis of the BMW F 800 R 2015 is made of aluminum and has a twin tube, load-bearing engine frame type. On the other hand, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 has a chromium-molybdenum frame, which may offer better strength and rigidity.

BMW F 800 R 2015

BMW F 800 R 2015

Both bikes have double disk brakes in the front with four pistons. However, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 has the added technology of radial and monoblock brakes, which may provide better braking performance and control.

In terms of rider assistance systems, the BMW F 800 R 2015 features electronically adjustable suspension, while the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 offers advanced systems such as ABS, cornering ABS, and traction control. These advanced systems in the KTM may enhance safety and overall riding experience.

Both bikes have similar front tire width and diameter, with a width of 120 mm and a diameter of 17 inches. However, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 has a wider rear tire width of 200 mm, which may provide better traction and stability.

The wheelbase of the BMW F 800 R 2015 is 1520 mm, while the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 has a slightly shorter wheelbase of 1497 mm. This difference in wheelbase may affect the overall handling and maneuverability of the bikes.

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

In terms of seat height, the BMW F 800 R 2015 has a range of 790-820 mm, while the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 has a higher seat height of 835 mm. The higher seat height in the KTM may provide a more commanding riding position.

Both bikes have a fuel tank capacity of 15 liters for the BMW F 800 R 2015 and 16 liters for the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020. The slightly larger fuel tank capacity in the KTM may provide a longer range between refueling.

In terms of strengths, the BMW F 800 R 2015 offers high-quality equipment such as ESA, RDC, and ASC, making it a versatile and comfortable bike. On the other hand, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 has a new frame, improved seating position, better automatic gearshift, powerful engine despite Euro 5 regulations, and sensitive electronics.

However, the BMW F 800 R 2015 has a weakness in that it can become relatively high-priced when adding all the extras. It also lacks the cult status of bikes like the Ducati Monster or Triumph Street Triple. The KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 has weaknesses in the easily scratched plastic between the seat and tank and brake squeaks at walking speed.

Overall, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 offers more power, improved features, and advanced rider assistance systems compared to the BMW F 800 R 2015. However, the BMW may still appeal to riders looking for a versatile and comfortable naked bike.

Technical Specifications BMW F 800 R 2015 compared to KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

BMW F 800 R 2015
KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

Engine and Drive Train

BoreBore82 mmBore108 mm
StrokeStroke75.6 mmStroke71 mm
Engine powerEngine power90 HPEngine power180 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power8,000 rpmRpm at Max. Power9,500 rpm
TorqueTorque86 NmTorque140 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque5,800 rpmRpm at Torque8,000 rpm
Compression RatioCompression Ratio12.02 Compression Ratio13.5
Clutch TypeClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bathClutch TypeAntihopping
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
CylindersCylinders2Cylinders2
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
DisplacementDisplacement798 ccmDisplacement1,301 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork

Suspension Rear

SuspensionSuspensionSwing armSuspensionSingle swing arm

Chassis

FrameFrameAluminiumFrameChromium-molybdenum
Frame typeFrame typeTwin Tube, Load-bearing engineFrame typeTubular

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons
TechnologyTechnologyradialTechnologyradial, Monoblock

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
PistonPistonSingle pistonPistonDouble piston
Shock mountShock mountFloating caliperShock mountFixed caliper

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsSuspension electronically adjustableAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Cornering ABS, Traction control

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width120 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height70 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter17 inchFront tyre diameter17 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width180 mmRear tyre width200 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height55 %Rear tyre height55 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter17 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
WheelbaseWheelbase1,520 mmWheelbase1,497 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height790,770,820 mmSeat Height835 mm
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity15 lFuel Tank Capacity16 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

BMW F 800 R 2015

BMW F 800 R 2015

The F 800 R is a motorbike without any real weaknesses, but remains rather unobtrusive overall even after the update. A very positive feature is the overall equipment, which is of very high quality in this league.

High-quality equipment such as ESA, RDC and ASC

very universally usable

fast to ride and still comfortable

The affordable entry-level bike becomes relatively high-priced when you implement all the extras

terrific on paper and while riding, but it lacks that certain something to become "cult" like a Monster or a Street Triple.

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

KTM has done everything right with the new Superduke 1290 R. The sportier seating position that results from the new frame is perfect for the fast attack, the engine has lost none of its power despite Euro 5, but has also become more refined in conjunction with the more sensitive electronics.

New frame, new seating position

Reverse linkage on shock absorber

Better automatic gearshift

Powerful engine despite Euro 5

Sensitive electronics

Easily scratched plastic between seat and tank

brake squeaks at walking speed

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price BMW F 800 R vs KTM 1290 Super Duke R

There are a few key differences between a BMW F 800 R 2015 and a KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020. In terms of price, the actual average price of a KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 is about 103% higher. A BMW F 800 R 2015 experiences a loss of 270 USD in one year of ownership. This is offset by a loss of 1,110 USD for a KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020. There are the same number of bikes of both models available on the 1000PS.de marketplace, specifically 14. It takes less time to sell a KTM 1290 Super Duke R with 78 days compared to 89 days for the BMW F 800 R. Since model year 2009 1000PS.de editors have written 20 reviews for the BMW F 800 R and 65 reviews for the KTM 1290 Super Duke R since model year 2013. The first review for the BMW F 800 R was published on 10/10/2008 and now has more than 8,900 views. This compares to more than 4,900 views for the first review on KTM 1290 Super Duke R published on 11/8/2012.

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