Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 vs. BMW F 850 GS 2018

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017

BMW F 850 GS 2018

BMW F 850 GS 2018

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Overview - Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 vs BMW F 850 GS 2018

In terms of engine and drive train, both the Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 and the BMW F 850 GS 2018 have similar specifications. They both have an in-line engine with a displacement of around 850-1000cc and produce the same amount of power at 95 HP. The Africa Twin has a slightly higher torque at 98 Nm compared to the F 850 GS's 92 Nm. Both bikes have an electric starter and use a chain transmission.

In terms of suspension, both bikes have upside-down telescopic forks at the front and a swing arm suspension at the rear. The Africa Twin offers more adjustment options with compression, preload, and rebound adjustments for the shock absorber, while the F 850 GS only has preload and rebound adjustments.

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017

Both bikes have a steel frame and double disk brakes at the front. The Africa Twin has advanced rider assistance systems such as ABS and traction control, while the F 850 GS only has ABS.

In terms of dimensions and weights, both bikes have a 21-inch front tire diameter and a 150 mm rear tire width. However, the Africa Twin has an 18-inch rear tire diameter, while the F 850 GS has a 17-inch rear tire diameter. The Africa Twin has a slightly shorter wheelbase at 1575 mm compared to the F 850 GS's 1593 mm. The seat height of the Africa Twin is also slightly lower at 850 mm, while the F 850 GS has a seat height of 860 mm. The Africa Twin has a higher kerb weight at 232 kg compared to the F 850 GS's 229 kg. The Africa Twin also has a larger fuel tank capacity at 18.8 liters, while the F 850 GS has a capacity of 15 liters.

Now, let's discuss the strengths and weaknesses of each bike. The Africa Twin is known for its comfortable ride and perfectly dimensioned engine. It offers a pleasant riding experience and the seat height is suitable for riders with a height of 175 cm. On the other hand, the F 850 GS has a superior engine and an adequate braking system. It also offers a very good seating position and easy handling. The F 850 GS has an extensive range of accessories and features such as riding modes and traction control, making it suitable for off-road riding.

BMW F 850 GS 2018

BMW F 850 GS 2018

However, the Africa Twin's suspension elements are too comfortably tuned at high speeds, which may not be ideal for off-road riding. The traction control on the Africa Twin is also annoying off-road as it needs to be readjusted after every short break. On the other hand, the F 850 GS has a disc that is positioned too low, which may affect its performance. Additionally, some riders feel that the sound of the F 850 GS could be better.

In conclusion, both the Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 and the BMW F 850 GS 2018 are capable enduro motorcycles with their own strengths and weaknesses. The Africa Twin offers a comfortable ride and a well-balanced engine, while the F 850 GS has a superior engine and off-road capabilities. Ultimately, the choice between the two will depend on the rider's preferences and intended use.

Technical Specifications Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 compared to BMW F 850 GS 2018

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017
BMW F 850 GS 2018

Engine and Drive Train

Engine typeEngine typeIn lineEngine typeIn line
BoreBore92 mmBore84 mm
StrokeStroke75.1 mmStroke77 mm
Engine powerEngine power95 HPEngine power95 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power7,500 rpmRpm at Max. Power8,250 rpm
TorqueTorque98 NmTorque92 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque6,000 rpmRpm at Torque6,250 rpm
Fuel systemFuel systemInjectionFuel systemInjection
StarterStarterElectricStarterElectric
Clutch TypeClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bathClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bath
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
Transmission TypeTransmission TypeGearshiftTransmission TypeGearshift
Number of gearsNumber of gears6Number of gears6
CylindersCylinders2Cylinders2
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
Valves per cylinderValves per cylinder4Valves per cylinder4
CoolingCoolingliquidCoolingliquid
Can be restricted for A2 licenceCan be restricted for A2 licenceYesCan be restricted for A2 licenceYes
DisplacementDisplacement998 ccmDisplacement853 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork

Suspension Rear

SuspensionSuspensionSwing armSuspensionSwing arm
Shock absorberShock absorberMonoshockShock absorberMonoshock
Shock mountShock mountPro-LinkShock mountdirect
AdjustmentAdjustmentCompression, Preload, ReboundAdjustmentPreload, Rebound
MaterialMaterialAluminiumMaterialAluminium

Chassis

FrameFrameSteelFrameSteel

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
DiameterDiameter310 mmDiameter305 mm
PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonDouble piston
ActuationActuationHydraulicActuationHydraulic

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
DiameterDiameter256 mmDiameter265 mm
PistonPistonDouble pistonPistonSingle piston

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Traction controlAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width90 mmFront tyre width90 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height90 %Front tyre height90 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter21 inchFront tyre diameter21 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width150 mmRear tyre width150 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height70 %Rear tyre height70 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter18 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
LengthLength2,335 mmLength2,305 mm
WidthWidth875 mmWidth922 mm
WheelbaseWheelbase1,575 mmWheelbase1,593 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height850 mmSeat Height860 mm
Kerb Weight (with ABS)Kerb Weight (with ABS)232 kgKerb Weight (with ABS)229 kg
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity18.8 lFuel Tank Capacity15 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017

Still sensational. It scores with the familiar Honda virtues, but never gets stale. A motorbike that goes with you through thick and thin and doesn't tire even on extra-long tours. Very robust off-road, also copes with really tough passages without any problems. Still the benchmark for touring enduros in 2017.

Comfortable but not boring

Pleasant and perfectly dimensioned engine

Seat height a tad lower than on the KTM- from 175cm height it could work

Suspension elements do everything off-road, but are too comfortably tuned at high speeds

traction control is annoying off-road - always has to be readjusted after every short break.

BMW F 850 GS 2018

BMW F 850 GS 2018

You might not see it at first glance on the new BMW F 850 GS, but it really is a completely new design. Both the steel chassis and the drivetrain have been changed, the engine enlarged to 853 cubic capacity and designed to be even more powerful with the 90-degree crankpin offset. As a result, the new F 850 GS presents itself more sovereign than excited and is convincing both on the road and off-road. The very special thing about the BMW is the ability to tailor it exactly to your personal needs thanks to the extensive range of accessories - there is actually no feature currently available that you can't get on your F 850 GS. However, this also drives up the price.

superior engine

adequate braking system

very good seating position

easy handling

extensive range of accessories

riding modes

traction control

off-road capable

Disc too low

sound could be better

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin vs BMW F 850 GS

There are a few key differences between a Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 and a BMW F 850 GS 2018. In terms of price, the actual average price of a BMW F 850 GS 2018 is about 10% higher. Compared to BMW F 850 GS 2018 there are more Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 bikes available on the 1000PS.de Marketplace, specifically 13 compared to 5. It takes less time to sell a Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin with 91 days compared to 112 days for a BMW F 850 GS. Since model year 2015 1000PS.de editors have written 47 reviews for the Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin and 31 reviews for the BMW F 850 GS since model year 2018. The first review for the Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin was published on 5/12/2015 and now has more than 13,600 views. This compares to more than 69,800 views for the first review on BMW F 850 GS published on 11/21/2017.

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