Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 vs. KTM 890 Duke R 2020

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

KTM 890 Duke R 2020

KTM 890 Duke R 2020

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Overview - Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 vs KTM 890 Duke R 2020

The Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 and the KTM 890 Duke R 2020 are both naked bikes that offer a thrilling riding experience. Let's compare their technical specifications and strengths in detail.

Starting with the engine and drivetrain, both bikes have in-line engines with fuel injection systems. However, the Honda CB1000R Black Edition has a more powerful engine with 145 HP compared to the KTM 890 Duke R's 121 HP. The Honda CB1000R Black Edition also has four cylinders, while the KTM 890 Duke R has two cylinders. Both bikes have liquid cooling systems and similar displacements, with the Honda CB1000R Black Edition at 998cc and the KTM 890 Duke R at 890cc.

In terms of suspension, the Honda CB1000R Black Edition features an upside-down telescopic fork from Showa at the front and a single swing arm with a Showa monoshock at the rear. On the other hand, the KTM 890 Duke R has a WP upside-down telescopic fork at the front and a swing arm with a WP monoshock at the rear. Both bikes offer adjustments for compression, preload, and rebound on the rear suspension.

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

When it comes to the chassis, the Honda CB1000R Black Edition has a steel frame with a backbone design, while the KTM 890 Duke R has a chromium-molybdenum frame with a tubular design. Both bikes have double disk brakes at the front with four-piston calipers and radial technology. The Honda CB1000R Black Edition has slightly smaller front brake disks with a diameter of 310mm compared to the KTM 890 Duke R's 320mm.

In terms of advanced rider assistance systems, both bikes offer ABS, riding modes, and traction control. Additionally, the Honda CB1000R Black Edition features ride by wire technology and a smooth quickshifter, while the KTM 890 Duke R offers a great electronics package.

Moving on to dimensions and weights, both bikes have a front tire width of 120mm and a front tire diameter of 17 inches. However, the Honda CB1000R Black Edition has a wider rear tire with a width of 190mm compared to the KTM 890 Duke R's 180mm. Both bikes have a wheelbase of around 1450-1480mm, with the Honda CB1000R Black Edition at 1455mm and the KTM 890 Duke R at 1482mm. The seat height is slightly higher on the Honda CB1000R Black Edition at 830mm compared to the KTM 890 Duke R's 834mm. The Honda CB1000R Black Edition also has a larger fuel tank capacity of 16.2 liters, while the KTM 890 Duke R has a capacity of 14 liters.

KTM 890 Duke R 2020

KTM 890 Duke R 2020

In terms of strengths, the Honda CB1000R Black Edition offers a powerful engine, a smooth quickshifter, and nimble handling. It also features a 5-inch TFT display and has a classy appearance. On the other hand, the KTM 890 Duke R has a great electronics package, high-quality brakes, and an extensively adjustable chassis. It also has a high-revving engine and playful handling.

As for weaknesses, the Honda CB1000R Black Edition's seat height could be an obstacle for small riders. On the other hand, the KTM 890 Duke R may have slightly nervous tendencies and requires a loose sitting position.

In conclusion, both the Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 and the KTM 890 Duke R 2020 are impressive naked bikes with their own strengths and weaknesses. The Honda CB1000R Black Edition offers a more powerful engine and a classy appearance, while the KTM 890 Duke R provides a great electronics package and playful handling. Ultimately, the choice between the two will depend on the rider's preferences and priorities.

Technical Specifications Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 compared to KTM 890 Duke R 2020

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023
KTM 890 Duke R 2020

Engine and Drive Train

Engine typeEngine typeIn lineEngine typeIn line
BoreBore75 mmBore90.7 mm
StrokeStroke56.5 mmStroke68.8 mm
Engine powerEngine power145 HPEngine power121 HP
Fuel systemFuel systemInjectionFuel systemInjection
StarterStarterElectricStarterElectric
Clutch TypeClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bathClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bath
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
Transmission TypeTransmission TypeGearshiftTransmission TypeGearshift
Number of gearsNumber of gears6Number of gears6
CylindersCylinders4Cylinders2
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
Valves per cylinderValves per cylinder4Valves per cylinder4
ValvesValvesDOHCValvesDOHC
CoolingCoolingliquidCoolingliquid
DisplacementDisplacement998 ccmDisplacement890 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork
BrandBrandShowaBrandWP
TravelTravel120 mmTravel140 mm

Suspension Rear

SuspensionSuspensionSingle swing armSuspensionSwing arm
Shock absorberShock absorberMonoshockShock absorberMonoshock
BrandBrandShowaBrandWP
TravelTravel131 mmTravel150 mm
AdjustmentAdjustmentCompression, Preload, ReboundAdjustmentPreload

Chassis

FrameFrameSteelFrameChromium-molybdenum
Frame typeFrame typeBackboneFrame typeTubular
RakeRake65 degreeRake65.7 degree

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
DiameterDiameter310 mmDiameter320 mm
PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons
ActuationActuationHydraulicActuationHydraulic
TechnologyTechnologyradialTechnologyradial

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
DiameterDiameter256 mmDiameter240 mm
PistonPistonDouble pistonPistonDouble piston

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Riding modes, Ride by Wire, Quickshifter, Traction controlAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Riding modes, Traction control

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width120 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height70 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter17 inchFront tyre diameter17 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width190 mmRear tyre width180 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height55 %Rear tyre height55 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter17 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
WheelbaseWheelbase1,455 mmWheelbase1,482 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height830 mmSeat Height834 mm
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity16.2 lFuel Tank Capacity14 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

Noble, dignified and incredibly powerful. The CB1000R Black Edition cuts a fine figure both in front of the opera and on a sporty smoke-up on the country road. Even under full load, the power unit exudes pure composure, while the chassis and brake components also cope well with the power and weight. A great all-round naked bike package that conveys Honda quality through and through.

powerful engine Smooth quickshifter

nimble handling

5 inch TFT display

classy appearance

Seat height could become an obstacle for small pilots

KTM 890 Duke R 2020

KTM 890 Duke R 2020

The KTM 890 Duke R appears playful, handy but with high-quality equipment. The engine and weight are reminiscent of much smaller motorbikes. The power unit revs up lively and hangs directly on the throttle. The bike turns easily and rides light-footed. Braking and the electronics package, however, are in the big league. Therefore, the 890 Duke is a fast and cool bike for country roads and racetracks.

Great electronics package

High-quality brakes

Extensively adjustable chassis

High-revving engine

Playful handling

Slightly nervous tendencies - loose sitting position necessary

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price Honda CB1000R Black Edition vs KTM 890 Duke R

There are a few key differences between a Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 and a KTM 890 Duke R 2020. In terms of price, the actual average price of a Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 is about 19% higher. Compared to KTM 890 Duke R 2020 there are more Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 bikes available on the 1000PS.de Marketplace, specifically 58 compared to 18. It takes less time to sell a KTM 890 Duke R with 76 days compared to 86 days for the Honda CB1000R Black Edition. Since model year 2021 1000PS.de editors have written 5 reviews for the Honda CB1000R Black Edition and 15 reviews for the KTM 890 Duke R since model year 2020. The first review for the Honda CB1000R Black Edition was published on 11/2/2020 and now has more than 97,700 views. This compares to more than 126,600 views for the first review on KTM 890 Duke R published on 11/5/2019.

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