KTM 890 Duke R 2023 vs. KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

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Overview - KTM 890 Duke R 2023 vs KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

The KTM 890 Duke R 2023 and the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 are both powerful naked bikes with impressive specifications. However, there are several differences between the two models.

In terms of engine power, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 takes the lead with 180 HP compared to the 121 HP of the KTM 890 Duke R 2023. The Super Duke R also has a higher torque at 140 Nm, while the 890 Duke R offers 99 Nm. Both bikes have 2 cylinders and similar displacements, with the 890 Duke R at 890cc and the Super Duke R at 1301cc.

When it comes to suspension, both models feature upside-down telescopic forks at the front, with the same WP brand. However, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 has a single swing arm rear suspension, while the 890 Duke R 2023 has a swing arm suspension. Both bikes have chromium-molybdenum frames with tubular frame types.

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

In terms of braking, both models have double disk brakes at the front with a diameter of 320mm and four pistons. The 890 Duke R 2023 has radial technology, while the Super Duke R 2020 has radial and monoblock technology, which may provide slightly better performance.

Both bikes come with advanced rider assistance systems such as ABS, cornering ABS, and traction control. The 890 Duke R 2023 also offers riding modes, ride by wire, and optional cornering ABS. These systems enhance safety and control while riding.

In terms of dimensions and weights, there are slight differences between the two models. The 890 Duke R 2023 has a front tire width of 120mm and a rear tire width of 180mm, while the Super Duke R 2020 has a wider rear tire at 200mm. The wheelbase of the 890 Duke R is slightly shorter at 1482mm compared to the 1497mm of the Super Duke R. Both bikes have similar seat heights, with the 890 Duke R at 834mm and the Super Duke R at 835mm. The dry weight of the 890 Duke R is 166kg, while the Super Duke R is slightly heavier at 189kg. The fuel tank capacity of the 890 Duke R is 14 liters, while the Super Duke R has a larger capacity at 16 liters.

In terms of strengths, the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 offers a powerful and rev-happy engine, finely controllable response, and a good quickshifter. The sporty seating position ensures great front-wheel feel, and the bike has high-quality adjustable suspension and powerful Brembo brakes. The low vehicle weight and extensive electronics, which are partly optional, are also notable strengths.

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

On the other hand, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 has the advantage of a new frame and seating position, as well as a reverse linkage on the shock absorber. The automatic gearshift is also improved, and the bike still offers a powerful engine despite Euro 5 regulations. The sensitive electronics are another strength of this model.

In terms of weaknesses, the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 has a more demanding seating position compared to the basic model, and the tight basic set-up may not be to everyone's taste. The KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 has some minor weaknesses, such as easily scratched plastic between the seat and tank and brake squeaks at walking speed.

Overall, both the KTM 890 Duke R 2023 and the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 are impressive naked bikes with their own strengths and weaknesses. The choice between the two would depend on individual preferences and priorities, such as desired power, seating position, and specific features.

Technical Specifications KTM 890 Duke R 2023 compared to KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

KTM 890 Duke R 2023
KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

Engine and Drive Train

BoreBore90.7 mmBore108 mm
StrokeStroke68.8 mmStroke71 mm
Engine powerEngine power121 HPEngine power180 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power9,250 rpmRpm at Max. Power9,500 rpm
TorqueTorque99 NmTorque140 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque7,750 rpmRpm at Torque8,000 rpm
StarterStarterElectricStarterElectric
Clutch TypeClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bathClutch TypeAntihopping
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
CylindersCylinders2Cylinders2
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
DisplacementDisplacement890 ccmDisplacement1,301 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork
BrandBrandWPBrandWP
DiameterDiameter43 mmDiameter48 mm
TravelTravel140 mmTravel125 mm

Suspension Rear

SuspensionSuspensionSwing armSuspensionSingle swing arm
BrandBrandWPBrandWP
TravelTravel150 mmTravel140 mm

Chassis

FrameFrameChromium-molybdenumFrameChromium-molybdenum
Frame typeFrame typeTubularFrame typeTubular

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
DiameterDiameter320 mmDiameter320 mm
PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons
TechnologyTechnologyradialTechnologyradial, Monoblock

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
DiameterDiameter240 mmDiameter240 mm
PistonPistonDouble pistonPistonDouble piston

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Riding modes, Cornering ABS, Ride by Wire, Traction controlAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Cornering ABS, Traction control

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width120 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height70 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter17 inchFront tyre diameter17 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width180 mmRear tyre width200 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height55 %Rear tyre height55 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter17 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
WheelbaseWheelbase1,482 mmWheelbase1,497 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height834 mmSeat Height835 mm
Dry Weight (with ABS)Dry Weight (with ABS)166 kgDry Weight (with ABS)189 kg
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity14 lFuel Tank Capacity16 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

KTM 890 Duke R 2023

The KTM 890 Duke R is the sportiest evolutionary stage of the 890 Duke. More power, firmer chassis, sharper brakes - these ingredients, together with the already low vehicle weight, make it a real precision machine. A fast and cool bike for riding fun fetishists, ambitious home track heaters and, last but not least, a real recommendation for trackday visitors. However, the sporty positioning of the upper body and the somewhat more acute knee angle come at the expense of comfort. Last but not least, the adjustable suspension in the basic setup is really crisply tuned. If you want to enjoy the powerful 890 engine and the high-quality electronics a little more comfortably, you can still go for the basic model with a clear conscience.

powerful and rev-happy engine

finely controllable response

good (optional) quickshifter

sporty seating position ensures great front-wheel feel

high-quality adjustable suspension

powerful Brembo brakes

low vehicle weight

extensive (partly optional) electronics

Sitting position more demanding than on the basic model

tight basic set-up not to everyone's taste

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020

KTM has done everything right with the new Superduke 1290 R. The sportier seating position that results from the new frame is perfect for the fast attack, the engine has lost none of its power despite Euro 5, but has also become more refined in conjunction with the more sensitive electronics.

New frame, new seating position

Reverse linkage on shock absorber

Better automatic gearshift

Powerful engine despite Euro 5

Sensitive electronics

Easily scratched plastic between seat and tank

brake squeaks at walking speed

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price KTM 890 Duke R vs KTM 1290 Super Duke R

There are a few key differences between a KTM 890 Duke R 2023 and a KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020. In terms of price, the actual average price of a KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 is about 12% higher. Compared to KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2020 there are more KTM 890 Duke R 2023 bikes available on the 1000PS.de Marketplace, specifically 38 compared to 14. It takes less time to sell a KTM 1290 Super Duke R with 78 days compared to 84 days for the KTM 890 Duke R. Since model year 2020 1000PS.de editors have written 15 reviews for the KTM 890 Duke R and 65 reviews for the KTM 1290 Super Duke R since model year 2013. The first review for the KTM 890 Duke R was published on 11/5/2019 and now has more than 126,600 views. This compares to more than 4,900 views for the first review on KTM 1290 Super Duke R published on 11/8/2012.

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