KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 vs. BMW S 1000 R 2022

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017

BMW S 1000 R 2022

BMW S 1000 R 2022

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Overview - KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 vs BMW S 1000 R 2022

When comparing the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 and the BMW S 1000 R 2022, there are several key differences to consider. Starting with the technical specifications, the KTM boasts a more powerful engine with 177 HP compared to the BMW's 165 HP. The KTM also has a higher torque of 144 Nm compared to the BMW's 114 Nm. In terms of cylinders, the KTM has 2 while the BMW has 4. However, the BMW has a slightly larger displacement of 999 ccm compared to the KTM's 1301 ccm.

Both bikes feature upside-down telescopic forks for their front suspension, providing a smooth and responsive ride. The KTM has a chromium-molybdenum frame, while the BMW features an aluminum frame. The frame type of the KTM is tubular, while the BMW has a twin tube frame. Both bikes have four-piston front brakes, but the KTM's brakes utilize radial monoblock technology, which offers enhanced stopping power.

In terms of advanced rider assistance systems, both bikes offer ABS and traction control. However, the BMW goes a step further and includes additional features such as hill start assist, riding modes, cornering ABS, ride by wire, quickshifter, traction control, and anti-wheelie. This makes the BMW more advanced in terms of electronic features.

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017

When it comes to dimensions and weights, both bikes have the same front and rear tire widths and diameters. The KTM has a slightly longer wheelbase of 1482 mm compared to the BMW's 1450 mm. The seat height of the KTM is 835 mm, slightly higher than the BMW's 830 mm. The KTM also has a larger fuel tank capacity of 18 liters compared to the BMW's 16.5 liters.

Moving on to the strengths of each bike, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 provides the most adrenaline rush and offers extensive configuration options when buying. It also has grandiose brakes and great original equipment tires. The KTM has practical electronic features and a great seating position for tall people. The electronic features can be set very sporty and also deactivated, giving the rider more control over their riding experience.

On the other hand, the BMW S 1000 R 2022 has a powerful engine and strong brakes. It offers comfortable ergonomics and good standard equipment. The BMW also has an extensive range of accessories available, allowing riders to customize their bike to their preferences.

BMW S 1000 R 2022

BMW S 1000 R 2022

However, both bikes have their weaknesses. The KTM's shift assistant, while nice to have, is a bit rough compared to other power nakeds. Riding the KTM can be exhausting, and hitting the precise stroke is not always easy. Additionally, the KTM is considered the most dangerous motorcycle for the driving license on the market.

The BMW's shift assistant is also sluggish compared to its counterparts. Some riders may find the optics of the BMW not 100% coherent, which could be a drawback for those who prioritize aesthetics.

In conclusion, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 and the BMW S 1000 R 2022 both have their strengths and weaknesses. The KTM offers a more powerful engine and extensive configuration options, while the BMW provides a comfortable riding experience and a wide range of accessories. Ultimately, the choice between the two will depend on the rider's preferences and priorities.

Technical Specifications KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 compared to BMW S 1000 R 2022

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017
BMW S 1000 R 2022

Engine and Drive Train

BoreBore108 mmBore80 mm
StrokeStroke71 mmStroke49.7 mm
Engine powerEngine power177 HPEngine power165 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power8,870 rpmRpm at Max. Power11,000 rpm
TorqueTorque144 NmTorque114 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque6,500 rpmRpm at Torque9,250 rpm
Compression RatioCompression Ratio13.2 Compression Ratio12.5
StarterStarterElectricStarterElectric
Clutch TypeClutch TypeAntihoppingClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bath, Antihopping
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
CylindersCylinders2Cylinders4
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
DisplacementDisplacement1,301 ccmDisplacement999 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork

Chassis

FrameFrameChromium-molybdenumFrameAluminium
Frame typeFrame typeTubularFrame typeTwin Tube

Brakes Front

PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons
Shock mountShock mountFixed caliperShock mountFixed caliper
TechnologyTechnologyradial, MonoblockTechnologyradial

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
PistonPistonDouble pistonPistonSingle piston
Shock mountShock mountFixed caliperShock mountFloating caliper

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Traction controlAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Hill start assist, Riding modes, Cornering ABS, Ride by Wire, Quickshifter, Traction control, Anti-wheelie

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width120 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height70 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter17 inchFront tyre diameter17 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width190 mmRear tyre width190 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height55 %Rear tyre height55 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter17 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
WheelbaseWheelbase1,482 mmWheelbase1,450 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height835 mmSeat Height830 mm
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity18 lFuel Tank Capacity16.5 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017

KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017

The KTM is and remains the most brutal naked bike on the market. The upright seating position combined with the wild V2 power make it seem more brutal than it is on paper. It has been improved precisely at its weakest points. The engine now runs smoother, the shift assistant brings calm in the acceleration phase and the chassis has been improved. It still loves the wild chase more than high cornering speed on long bends.

Provides the most adrenaline rush

Extensive configuration options when buying

Grandiose brakes

Great original equipment tyres

Practical electronic features

Great seating position for tall people

Electronic features can be set very sporty and also deactivated.

Shift assistant nice, but in direct comparison with other power nakeds a bit rough

Exhausting to ride

Precise stroke not always easy to hit

The most dangerous motorbike for the driving licence on the market.

BMW S 1000 R 2022

BMW S 1000 R 2022

The seating position is sporty, but by no means uncomfortable, the brakes are powerful and the engine of the S 1000 R is at its best - perhaps even a little too homogeneous. There is also nothing to complain about on the riding side. Based on the pure performance data and the installed electronic features, the BMW probably has what it takes for the fastest lap time. And that on any kind of surface, because with the semi-active suspension you can eat up kilometre after kilometre on bad roads littered with potholes. Unfortunately, this feeling of superiority never really spilled over to the driver. Probably the downside of too much balance in all areas - at least in my Italophile eyes. The BMW lacked that certain something, the charisma, which is difficult to explain but arouses genuine emotions.

powerful engine

strong brakes

comfortable ergonomics

good standard equipment

extensive range of accessories

Sluggish shift assistant

optics not 100% coherent

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price KTM 1290 Super Duke R vs BMW S 1000 R

There are a few key differences between a KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 and a BMW S 1000 R 2022. In terms of price, the actual average price of a BMW S 1000 R 2022 is about 39% higher. Compared to BMW S 1000 R 2022 there are less KTM 1290 Super Duke R 2017 bikes available on the 1000PS.de Marketplace, specifically 15 compared to 22. It takes less time to sell a KTM 1290 Super Duke R with 70 days compared to 71 days for a BMW S 1000 R. Since model year 2013 1000PS.de editors have written 65 reviews for the KTM 1290 Super Duke R and 62 reviews for the BMW S 1000 R since model year 2014. The first review for the KTM 1290 Super Duke R was published on 11/8/2012 and now has more than 4,900 views. This compares to more than 17,300 views for the first review on BMW S 1000 R published on 11/3/2013.

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