Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 vs. KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017

KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017

KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017

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Overview - Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 vs KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017

The Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 is an enduro motorcycle with an in-line engine. It has a bore of 92 mm and a stroke of 75.1 mm, producing an engine power of 95 HP and a torque of 98 Nm. The bike has an electric starter and a chain transmission. It has 2 cylinders and a displacement of 998 ccm.

The front suspension of the Africa Twin is an upside-down telescopic fork from Showa, with adjustable compression, preload, and rebound. The rear suspension is a swing arm with a monoshock, also from Showa, with the same adjustable features. The frame of the bike is made of steel. The front brakes are double disk brakes from Nissin. The bike is equipped with ABS and traction control as advanced rider assistance systems.

In terms of dimensions and weights, the front tire diameter is 21 inches, while the rear tire width is 150 mm and the diameter is 18 inches. The wheelbase is 1575 mm and the seat height is 850 mm, adjustable up to 870 mm. The dry weight of the bike with ABS is 212 kg, and the kerb weight with ABS is 232 kg. The fuel tank capacity is 18.8 liters.

On the other hand, the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017 is also an enduro motorcycle with a V engine type. It has a bore of 108 mm and a stroke of 71 mm, producing an engine power of 160 HP and a torque of 140 Nm. The bike has an electric starter and a chain transmission. It has 2 cylinders and a displacement of 1301 ccm.

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017

The front suspension of the Super Adventure S is an upside-down telescopic fork from WP, with adjustable compression, preload, and rebound. The rear suspension is a swing arm with a monoshock, also from WP, with the same adjustable features. The frame of the bike is made of chromium-molybdenum. The front brakes are double disk brakes from Brembo. The bike is equipped with ABS, suspension electronically adjustable, riding modes, ride by wire, and traction control as advanced rider assistance systems.

In terms of dimensions and weights, the front tire diameter is 19 inches, while the rear tire width is 170 mm and the diameter is 17 inches. The wheelbase is 1560 mm and the seat height is 860 mm, adjustable up to 875 mm. The dry weight of the bike with ABS is 215 kg, and the kerb weight with ABS is 238 kg. The fuel tank capacity is 23 liters.

In terms of strengths, the Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 is known for its comfortable yet exciting ride. The engine is pleasant and perfectly dimensioned, providing a great balance of power. The seat height is slightly lower than the KTM, making it more suitable for riders with a height of 175 cm or above.

KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017

KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017

On the other hand, the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017 has a powerful engine and precise handling. The traction control system adds a fun factor to the ride, and the bike comes with cornering ABS as standard. The TFT display is easy to read and huge, and the bike also features a quickshifter, LED headlights with cornering lights, and off-road capability.

In terms of weaknesses, the Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 has suspension elements that are too comfortably tuned at high speeds, which may not be ideal for aggressive off-road riding. The traction control system can be annoying off-road, as it needs to be readjusted after every short break.

On the other hand, the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017 has a high price compared to the Honda Africa Twin. The height adjustment of the windshield is power-consuming, which may be a drawback for some riders.

Overall, both bikes have their own strengths and weaknesses. The Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 offers a comfortable and exciting ride, while the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017 provides a powerful and precise riding experience. The choice between the two would depend on the rider's preferences and priorities.

Technical Specifications Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 compared to KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017

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Engine and Drive Train

Engine typeEngine typeIn lineEngine typeV
BoreBore92 mmBore108 mm
StrokeStroke75.1 mmStroke71 mm
Engine powerEngine power95 HPEngine power160 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power7,500 rpmRpm at Max. Power8,750 rpm
TorqueTorque98 NmTorque140 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque6,000 rpmRpm at Torque6,750 rpm
Fuel systemFuel systemInjectionFuel systemInjection
StarterStarterElectricStarterElectric
Clutch TypeClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bathClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bath
IgnitionIgnitionTransistorIgnitionDual ignition
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
Transmission TypeTransmission TypeGearshiftTransmission TypeGearshift
Number of gearsNumber of gears6Number of gears6
CylindersCylinders2Cylinders2
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
Valves per cylinderValves per cylinder4Valves per cylinder4
CoolingCoolingliquidCoolingliquid
DisplacementDisplacement998 ccmDisplacement1,301 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork
BrandBrandShowaBrandWP
AdjustmentAdjustmentCompression, Preload, ReboundAdjustmentCompression, Preload, Rebound

Suspension Rear

SuspensionSuspensionSwing armSuspensionSwing arm
Shock absorberShock absorberMonoshockShock absorberMonoshock
Shock mountShock mountPro-LinkShock mountDeflection
BrandBrandShowaBrandWP
AdjustmentAdjustmentCompression, Preload, ReboundAdjustmentCompression, Preload, Rebound
MaterialMaterialAluminiumMaterialAluminium

Chassis

FrameFrameSteelFrameChromium-molybdenum

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
DiameterDiameter310 mmDiameter320 mm
PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons
ActuationActuationHydraulicActuationHydraulic
TechnologyTechnologyradialTechnologyradial
BrandBrandNissinBrandBrembo

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
DiameterDiameter256 mmDiameter267 mm
PistonPistonDouble pistonPistonDouble piston

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Traction controlAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Suspension electronically adjustable, Riding modes, Ride by Wire, Traction control

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width90 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height90 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter21 inchFront tyre diameter19 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width150 mmRear tyre width170 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height70 %Rear tyre height60 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter18 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
WheelbaseWheelbase1,575 mmWheelbase1,560 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height850 mmSeat Height860 mm
Seat Height up toSeat Height up to870 mmSeat Height up to875 mm
Dry Weight (with ABS)Dry Weight (with ABS)212 kgDry Weight (with ABS)215 kg
Kerb Weight (with ABS)Kerb Weight (with ABS)232 kgKerb Weight (with ABS)238 kg
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity18.8 lFuel Tank Capacity23 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017

Still sensational. It scores with the familiar Honda virtues, but never gets stale. A motorbike that goes with you through thick and thin and doesn't tire even on extra-long tours. Very robust off-road, also copes with really tough passages without any problems. Still the benchmark for touring enduros in 2017.

Comfortable but not boring

Pleasant and perfectly dimensioned engine

Seat height a tad lower than on the KTM- from 175cm height it could work

Suspension elements do everything off-road, but are too comfortably tuned at high speeds

traction control is annoying off-road - always has to be readjusted after every short break.

KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017

KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017

The KTM 1290 Super Adventure S is more than a sporty touring enduro - it is a sports machine that can also go on tours. The powerful 160 hp engine is not only extremely powerful, it is also very easy to operate and makes you want to ride sportily. The many electronic assistance systems such as traction control, semi-active chassis, various modes and cornering ABS also contribute to making you feel right at home on the 1290 Super Adventure S. Finally, the huge TFT display and other gadgets such as the Race-on system or My Ride are also quite convincing.

Powerful engine

precise handling

traction control with fun factor

cornering ABS as standard

easy-to-read, huge TFT display

quickshifter

LED headlights with cornering lights

off-road capable.

High price

power-consuming height adjustment of the windshield

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin vs KTM 1290 Super Adventure S

There are a few key differences between a Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 and a KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017. In terms of price, the actual average price of a KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017 is about 16% higher. Compared to KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2017 there are less Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 bikes available on the 1000PS.de Marketplace, specifically 13 compared to 26. It takes less time to sell a KTM 1290 Super Adventure S with 68 days compared to 91 days for the Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin. Since model year 2015 1000PS.de editors have written 47 reviews for the Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin and 31 reviews for the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S since model year 2017. The first review for the Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin was published on 5/12/2015 and now has more than 13,600 views. This compares to more than 32,200 views for the first review on KTM 1290 Super Adventure S published on 10/12/2016.

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