Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 vs. KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2022

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017

KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2022

KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2022

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Overview - Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 vs KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2022

When comparing the Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 and the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2022, there are several notable differences in terms of their technical specifications and strengths.

In terms of engine type, the Honda Africa Twin features an inline engine, while the KTM Super Adventure S has a V2 power plant. The KTM has a larger bore and a shorter stroke compared to the Honda, resulting in a higher engine power of 160 HP compared to the Honda's 95 HP. The KTM also has a higher torque of 138 Nm compared to the Honda's 98 Nm.

Both motorcycles have electric starters and chain transmissions. They also have the same number of cylinders and similar displacements, with the KTM having a slightly larger displacement of 1301 ccm compared to the Honda's 998 ccm.

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017

In terms of suspension, both motorcycles have upside-down telescopic forks at the front and swing arm suspensions at the rear. However, the Honda features Showa suspension components, while the KTM features WP suspension components. Both suspensions offer adjustments for compression, preload, and rebound.

The chassis of the Honda Africa Twin is made of steel, while the KTM Super Adventure S features a chromium-molybdenum frame. This difference in frame material may result in variations in weight and handling characteristics.

Both motorcycles have double disk brakes at the front, with the Honda using Nissin brakes and the KTM using Brembo brakes. The KTM also offers additional advanced rider assistance systems, including electronically adjustable suspension, riding modes, cornering ABS, ride by wire, cruise control, and traction control. The Honda, on the other hand, offers ABS and traction control as its advanced rider assistance systems.

In terms of dimensions and weights, the Honda Africa Twin has a larger front tire diameter of 21 inches compared to the KTM's 19 inches. The KTM, however, has a wider rear tire of 170 mm compared to the Honda's 150 mm. Both motorcycles have similar wheelbases and seat heights, with the KTM having a slightly lower seat height. The KTM also has a larger fuel tank capacity of 23 liters compared to the Honda's 18.8 liters.

KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2022

KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2022

In terms of strengths, the Honda Africa Twin is known for its comfortable yet engaging riding experience, thanks to its well-dimensioned engine and slightly lower seat height. The KTM Super Adventure S, on the other hand, offers a very sporty and powerful V2 engine, along with playful handling despite its higher weight. It also boasts a comfortable seating position, good brakes with cornering ABS, and a comprehensive electronics package, including adaptive cruise control and a large 7-inch display.

However, both motorcycles have their weaknesses. The Honda Africa Twin's suspension elements are tuned more for off-road use, which may result in less optimal performance at high speeds. Its traction control system may also require frequent readjustment when riding off-road. The KTM Super Adventure S, on the other hand, has a gearshift assistant that comes at an extra cost and has an idiosyncratic look. Additionally, some riders may find its seat to be on the tighter side.

In conclusion, the Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 and the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2022 offer different strengths and weaknesses. The Honda provides a comfortable and engaging riding experience, while the KTM offers a sportier and more powerful performance, along with a comprehensive electronics package. Ultimately, the choice between the two will depend on the rider's preferences and intended use.

Technical Specifications Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 compared to KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2022

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017
KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2022

Engine and Drive Train

Engine typeEngine typeIn lineEngine typeV
BoreBore92 mmBore108 mm
StrokeStroke75.1 mmStroke71 mm
Engine powerEngine power95 HPEngine power160 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power7,500 rpmRpm at Max. Power8,750 rpm
TorqueTorque98 NmTorque138 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque6,000 rpmRpm at Torque6,750 rpm
Fuel systemFuel systemInjectionFuel systemInjection
StarterStarterElectricStarterElectric
Clutch TypeClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bathClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bath
IgnitionIgnitionTransistorIgnitionDual ignition
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
Transmission TypeTransmission TypeGearshiftTransmission TypeGearshift
Number of gearsNumber of gears6Number of gears6
CylindersCylinders2Cylinders2
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
Valves per cylinderValves per cylinder4Valves per cylinder4
CoolingCoolingliquidCoolingliquid
DisplacementDisplacement998 ccmDisplacement1,301 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork
BrandBrandShowaBrandWP
AdjustmentAdjustmentCompression, Preload, ReboundAdjustmentCompression, Preload, Rebound

Suspension Rear

SuspensionSuspensionSwing armSuspensionSwing arm
Shock absorberShock absorberMonoshockShock absorberMonoshock
Shock mountShock mountPro-LinkShock mountDeflection
BrandBrandShowaBrandWP
AdjustmentAdjustmentCompression, Preload, ReboundAdjustmentCompression, Preload, Rebound
MaterialMaterialAluminiumMaterialAluminium

Chassis

FrameFrameSteelFrameChromium-molybdenum

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
DiameterDiameter310 mmDiameter320 mm
PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons
ActuationActuationHydraulicActuationHydraulic
TechnologyTechnologyradialTechnologyradial
BrandBrandNissinBrandBrembo

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
DiameterDiameter256 mmDiameter267 mm
PistonPistonDouble pistonPistonDouble piston

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Traction controlAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsSuspension electronically adjustable, Riding modes, Cornering ABS, Ride by Wire, Cruise control, Traction control

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width90 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height90 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter21 inchFront tyre diameter19 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width150 mmRear tyre width170 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height70 %Rear tyre height60 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter18 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
WheelbaseWheelbase1,575 mmWheelbase1,560 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height850 mmSeat Height849 mm
Seat Height up toSeat Height up to870 mmSeat Height up to869 mm
Dry Weight (with ABS)Dry Weight (with ABS)212 kgDry Weight (with ABS)220 kg
Kerb Weight (with ABS)Kerb Weight (with ABS)232 kgKerb Weight (with ABS)243 kg
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity18.8 lFuel Tank Capacity23 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017

Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017

Still sensational. It scores with the familiar Honda virtues, but never gets stale. A motorbike that goes with you through thick and thin and doesn't tire even on extra-long tours. Very robust off-road, also copes with really tough passages without any problems. Still the benchmark for touring enduros in 2017.

Comfortable but not boring

Pleasant and perfectly dimensioned engine

Seat height a tad lower than on the KTM- from 175cm height it could work

Suspension elements do everything off-road, but are too comfortably tuned at high speeds

traction control is annoying off-road - always has to be readjusted after every short break.

KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2022

KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2022

Even one year after its presentation, the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S is anything but old hat. The Euro5 engine continues to shine incredibly with its 160 hp and the argen torque of 138 Newton metres. The refined electronics ensure an even smoother ride, which, thanks to the wonderfully agile handling, results in a lot of fun when cornering. But the new SASi also has a lot to offer comfort freaks and all those who value the touring qualities of this type of motorbike. A nice, standard feature is the adaptive cruise control ACC, which independently keeps the distance to the vehicle in front - and works really well. In any case, the Quickshifter+ or the all-inclusive TechPack is recommended - given the basic price, the extra charge of around 1,000 euros is of little consequence anyway.

Very sporty, but also cultivated V2 power plant

extremely playful handling despite high weight

comfortable, driving-friendly seating position

good brakes including cornering ABS

comprehensive electronics package

adaptive cruise control ACC

clear, well-structured instrumentation with huge 7-inch display.

Gearshift assistant at extra cost

idiosyncratic look

tight seat

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin vs KTM 1290 Super Adventure S

There are a few key differences between a Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 and a KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2022. In terms of price, the actual average price of a KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2022 is about 67% higher. Compared to KTM 1290 Super Adventure S 2022 there are less Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin 2017 bikes available on the 1000PS.de Marketplace, specifically 13 compared to 24. It takes less time to sell a Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin with 91 days compared to 96 days for a KTM 1290 Super Adventure S. Since model year 2015 1000PS.de editors have written 47 reviews for the Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin and 31 reviews for the KTM 1290 Super Adventure S since model year 2017. The first review for the Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin was published on 12/05/2015 and now has more than 13,600 views. This compares to more than 32,200 views for the first review on KTM 1290 Super Adventure S published on 12/10/2016.

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