KTM 1290 Super Adventure R 2017 vs. BMW F 850 GS Adventure 2019

KTM 1290 Super Adventure R 2017

KTM 1290 Super Adventure R 2017

BMW F 850 GS Adventure 2019

BMW F 850 GS Adventure 2019

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Overview - KTM 1290 Super Adventure R 2017 vs BMW F 850 GS Adventure 2019

The KTM 1290 Super Adventure R 2017 and the BMW F 850 GS Adventure 2019 are both enduro motorcycles designed for off-road adventures. While they have some similarities in terms of their technical specifications, they also have distinct differences that set them apart.

In terms of engine and drive train, the KTM 1290 Super Adventure R 2017 features a V-twin engine with a displacement of 1301cc, producing an impressive 160 HP of power and 140 Nm of torque. On the other hand, the BMW F 850 GS Adventure 2019 has an in-line twin engine with a displacement of 853cc, generating 95 HP of power and 92 Nm of torque. The KTM offers a more powerful and refined engine, while the BMW provides a smoother and more fuel-efficient performance.

Both motorcycles have a chain transmission and electric starter. The KTM has a 2-cylinder engine, while the BMW also has a 2-cylinder engine. The KTM has a larger bore of 108mm compared to the BMW's 84mm, which contributes to its higher power output.

In terms of suspension, both motorcycles feature upside-down telescopic forks at the front and swing arm suspension at the rear. The KTM has a front fork diameter of 48mm and a travel of 220mm, while the BMW has a front fork diameter of 43mm and a travel of 230mm. The KTM has a slightly higher rear suspension travel of 220mm compared to the BMW's 215mm. The KTM also offers more adjustment options for the rear suspension, including compression, preload, and rebound adjustments.

KTM 1290 Super Adventure R 2017

KTM 1290 Super Adventure R 2017

In terms of chassis, the KTM features a chromium-molybdenum frame, while the BMW has a steel frame. Both motorcycles have tubular frame types, but the BMW's frame is load-bearing, which means it contributes to the overall strength and rigidity of the motorcycle. The KTM has a slightly steeper rake angle of 64 degrees compared to the BMW's 62 degrees, which affects the handling and stability of the motorcycle.

Both motorcycles have double disk brakes at the front, providing reliable stopping power. The KTM offers advanced rider assistance systems such as ABS, electronically adjustable suspension, riding modes, ride by wire, and traction control. The BMW also has ABS, but it also includes anti-slipping control, riding modes, and ride by wire.

In terms of dimensions and weights, both motorcycles have a front tire diameter of 21 inches and a rear tire width of 150mm. However, the KTM has a rear tire diameter of 18 inches, while the BMW has a rear tire diameter of 17 inches. The wheelbase of the KTM is 1580mm, slightly shorter than the BMW's 1593mm. The seat height of the KTM is 890mm, while the BMW has a slightly lower seat height of 875mm. The KTM has a kerb weight of 240kg, while the BMW weighs slightly more at 244kg. Both motorcycles have a fuel tank capacity of 23 liters.

BMW F 850 GS Adventure 2019

BMW F 850 GS Adventure 2019

In terms of strengths, the KTM 1290 Super Adventure R 2017 is fully off-road capable and offers a good off-road mode. It has easy handling and a very powerful and refined engine. It also features state-of-the-art electronic features and a large, easy-to-read TFT display. The LED headlights with cornering lights provide excellent visibility.

On the other hand, the BMW F 850 GS Adventure 2019 offers a silky-smooth engine and top ergonomics and comfort. It is particularly suitable for touring and is also capable of off-road adventures. It is technologically very mature and offers a range of advanced features.

In terms of weaknesses, the KTM 1290 Super Adventure R 2017 has a high price and a power-consuming height adjustment for the windshield. The BMW F 850 GS Adventure 2019 also has a high price, especially with additional equipment. Its engine may lack emotional appeal, and the fork is not adjustable. It also has a relatively high weight.

In conclusion, the KTM 1290 Super Adventure R 2017 and the BMW F 850 GS Adventure 2019 are both capable enduro motorcycles with their own strengths and weaknesses. The KTM offers a more powerful and refined engine, advanced electronic features, and excellent off-road capabilities. The BMW provides a smoother engine, top ergonomics and comfort, and is suitable for both touring and off-road adventures. Ultimately, the choice between the two will depend on the rider's preferences and priorities.

Technical Specifications KTM 1290 Super Adventure R 2017 compared to BMW F 850 GS Adventure 2019

KTM 1290 Super Adventure R 2017
BMW F 850 GS Adventure 2019

Engine and Drive Train

Engine typeEngine typeVEngine typeIn line
BoreBore108 mmBore84 mm
StrokeStroke71 mmStroke77 mm
Engine powerEngine power160 HPEngine power95 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power8,750 rpmRpm at Max. Power8,250 rpm
TorqueTorque140 NmTorque92 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque6,750 rpmRpm at Torque6,250 rpm
Compression RatioCompression Ratio13.1 Compression Ratio12.7
Fuel systemFuel systemInjectionFuel systemInjection
Throttle BoreThrottle Bore52 mmThrottle Bore48 mm
StarterStarterElectricStarterElectric
Clutch TypeClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bathClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bath
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
Transmission TypeTransmission TypeGearshiftTransmission TypeGearshift
Number of gearsNumber of gears6Number of gears6
CylindersCylinders2Cylinders2
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
Valves per cylinderValves per cylinder4Valves per cylinder4
ValvesValvesDOHCValvesDOHC
CoolingCoolingliquidCoolingliquid
LubricationLubricationForcedLubricationDry sump
DisplacementDisplacement1,301 ccmDisplacement853 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork
DiameterDiameter48 mmDiameter43 mm
TravelTravel220 mmTravel230 mm

Suspension Rear

SuspensionSuspensionSwing armSuspensionSwing arm
Shock absorberShock absorberMonoshockShock absorberMonoshock
Shock mountShock mountdirectShock mountdirect
TravelTravel220 mmTravel215 mm
AdjustmentAdjustmentCompression, Preload, ReboundAdjustmentPreload, Rebound
MaterialMaterialAluminiumMaterialAluminium

Chassis

FrameFrameChromium-molybdenumFrameSteel
Frame typeFrame typeTubularFrame typeTubular, Load-bearing engine
RakeRake64 degreeRake62 degree
TrailTrail123 mmTrail124.6 mm

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
DiameterDiameter320 mmDiameter305 mm
PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonDouble piston
Shock mountShock mountFixed caliperShock mountFloating caliper
ActuationActuationHydraulicActuationHydraulic

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
DiameterDiameter267 mmDiameter265 mm
PistonPistonDouble pistonPistonSingle piston
Shock mountShock mountFixed caliperShock mountFloating caliper

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Suspension electronically adjustable, Riding modes, Ride by Wire, Traction controlAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Anti-slipping control, Riding modes, Ride by Wire

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width90 mmFront tyre width90 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height90 %Front tyre height90 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter21 inchFront tyre diameter21 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width150 mmRear tyre width150 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height70 %Rear tyre height70 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter18 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
WheelbaseWheelbase1,580 mmWheelbase1,593 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height890 mmSeat Height875 mm
Kerb Weight (with ABS)Kerb Weight (with ABS)240 kgKerb Weight (with ABS)244 kg
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity23 lFuel Tank Capacity23 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

KTM 1290 Super Adventure R 2017

KTM 1290 Super Adventure R 2017

The 1290 Super Adventure R is supposed to be the new off-road flagship of the KTM Adventure range - and it is! It's amazing how easy it is to move 240 kilos off-road with a full tank. The off-road mode is also largely convincing. On the other hand, as on the 1290 Super Adventure S, the full 160 hp and 140 Newton metres of torque as well as all comfort features (apart from the electronically adjustable suspension) are available on the R version: Four performance modes (Sport, Street, Rain and Offroad), cornering ABS, traction control, cruise control, keyless race-on system and the mobile phone management "My Ride". This means that the KTM 1290 Super Adventure R actually combines four motorbikes in one - and thus justifies the proud price.

Fully off-road capable

good off-road mode

easy handling

very powerful and refined engine

state-of-the-art electronic features such as traction control, quickshifter and cornering ABS

large, easy-to-read TFT display

LED headlights with cornering lights.

High price

power-consuming height adjustment of the windshield

BMW F 850 GS Adventure 2019

BMW F 850 GS Adventure 2019

Packed with technical features and additional equipment, the "small" Adventure is a high-tech machine. The many functions work well, and our testers were particularly impressed by the electronic chassis and the silky-smooth running of the engine. The Asian origin of the engine is not noticeable. The larger tank of the Adventure version and all the accessories drive up both the weight and the price. At 244 kg, the BMW F 850 GS Adventure is a bulky lump, which doesn't please everyone. But the ergonomics are top-notch, and the seating position in the wide fairing conveys a feeling of safety and protection.

Silky-smooth engine

top ergonomics and comfort

absolutely suitable for touring

suitable for off-road

technically very mature

High price with additional equipment

engine exudes little emotion

fork not adjustable

quite high weight

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price KTM 1290 Super Adventure R vs BMW F 850 GS Adventure

There are a few key differences between a KTM 1290 Super Adventure R 2017 and a BMW F 850 GS Adventure 2019. In terms of price, the actual average price of a KTM 1290 Super Adventure R 2017 is about 3% higher. There are the same number of bikes of both models available on the 1000PS.de marketplace, specifically 5. It takes less time to sell a KTM 1290 Super Adventure R with 86 days compared to 138 days for a BMW F 850 GS Adventure. Since model year 2017 1000PS.de editors have written 19 reviews for the KTM 1290 Super Adventure R and 12 reviews for the BMW F 850 GS Adventure since model year 2019. The first review for the KTM 1290 Super Adventure R was published on 04/10/2016 and now has more than 36,400 views. This compares to more than 33,200 views for the first review on BMW F 850 GS Adventure published on 06/11/2018.

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