Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 vs. Yamaha MT-10 SP 2023

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

Yamaha MT-10 SP 2023

Yamaha MT-10 SP 2023

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Overview - Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 vs Yamaha MT-10 SP 2023

The Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 and the Yamaha MT-10 SP 2023 are both powerful naked bikes with impressive specifications. However, there are some key differences between the two models.

In terms of engine power, the Yamaha MT-10 SP takes the lead with 166 HP compared to the Honda CB1000R Black Edition's 145 HP. The Yamaha also has a higher torque of 112 Nm compared to the Honda's 104 Nm. Both bikes have a 998cc inline-four engine and use fuel injection systems.

When it comes to suspension, the Honda CB1000R Black Edition is equipped with Showa suspension both at the front and rear. The front suspension is an upside-down telescopic fork, while the rear suspension is a single swing arm with a monoshock. On the other hand, the Yamaha MT-10 SP features Kayaba front suspension and an Öhlins rear shock absorber. Both bikes offer adjustable compression, preload, and rebound settings.

In terms of chassis, the Honda CB1000R Black Edition has a steel backbone frame, while the Yamaha MT-10 SP features an aluminum Deltabox frame. The Yamaha's frame is considered to be of higher quality and provides better stability and handling.

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

Both bikes have double disk brakes at the front with four pistons and radial technology. The Yamaha MT-10 SP has slightly larger brake discs with a diameter of 320mm compared to the Honda CB1000R Black Edition's 310mm discs. However, the Yamaha's brakes are considered to be undersized for a top model.

In terms of rider assistance systems, both bikes offer ABS, riding modes, ride by wire, and traction control. The Yamaha MT-10 SP also includes additional features such as suspension electronically adjustable, cornering ABS, shift assistant with blipper, cruise control, and anti-wheelie.

When it comes to dimensions and weights, the Yamaha MT-10 SP has a slightly shorter wheelbase of 1405mm compared to the Honda CB1000R Black Edition's 1455mm. The seat height is also slightly higher on the Yamaha at 835mm compared to the Honda's 830mm. Both bikes have similar tire sizes and fuel tank capacities.

Yamaha MT-10 SP 2023

Yamaha MT-10 SP 2023

In terms of equipment, both bikes are equipped with LED headlights and TFT displays.

In terms of strengths, the Honda CB1000R Black Edition offers a powerful engine, smooth quickshifter, nimble handling, a 5-inch TFT display, and a classy appearance. On the other hand, the Yamaha MT-10 SP provides great ride comfort, a balance between sportiness and practicality, fantastic engine response, a sensitive and practical chassis, a high-quality frame including a magnificent swingarm, a relaxed seating position, and a cool sound.

In terms of weaknesses, the Honda CB1000R Black Edition's seat height could be an obstacle for small riders. The Yamaha MT-10 SP, on the other hand, may feel too comfortable on a racetrack excursion due to its inactive and comfortable seating position. The front of the Yamaha also looks a little lumpy, and the brakes are considered undersized for a top model.

Overall, both the Honda CB1000R Black Edition and the Yamaha MT-10 SP are impressive naked bikes with their own strengths and weaknesses. The choice between the two will ultimately depend on the rider's preferences and priorities.

Technical Specifications Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 compared to Yamaha MT-10 SP 2023

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023
Yamaha MT-10 SP 2023

Engine and Drive Train

Engine typeEngine typeIn lineEngine typeIn line
BoreBore75 mmBore79 mm
StrokeStroke56.5 mmStroke50.9 mm
Engine powerEngine power145 HPEngine power166 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power10,500 rpmRpm at Max. Power11,500 rpm
TorqueTorque104 NmTorque112 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque8,250 rpmRpm at Torque9,000 rpm
Compression RatioCompression Ratio11.6 Compression Ratio12
Fuel systemFuel systemInjectionFuel systemInjection
StarterStarterElectricStarterElectric
Clutch TypeClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bathClutch TypeMultiplate in oil-bath
IgnitionIgnitionTransistorIgnitionTransistor
TransmissionTransmissionChainTransmissionChain
Transmission TypeTransmission TypeGearshiftTransmission TypeGearshift
Number of gearsNumber of gears6Number of gears6
CylindersCylinders4Cylinders4
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
Valves per cylinderValves per cylinder4Valves per cylinder4
ValvesValvesDOHCValvesDOHC
CoolingCoolingliquidCoolingliquid
DisplacementDisplacement998 ccmDisplacement998 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic fork
BrandBrandShowaBrandKayaba
TravelTravel120 mmTravel120 mm
AdjustmentAdjustmentCompression, Preload, ReboundAdjustmentCompression, Preload, Rebound

Suspension Rear

SuspensionSuspensionSingle swing armSuspensionSwing arm
Shock absorberShock absorberMonoshockShock absorberMonoshock
BrandBrandShowaBrandÖhlins
TravelTravel131 mmTravel120 mm
AdjustmentAdjustmentCompression, Preload, ReboundAdjustmentCompression, Preload, Rebound

Chassis

FrameFrameSteelFrameAluminium
Frame typeFrame typeBackboneFrame typeDeltabox
RakeRake65 degreeRake66 degree
TrailTrail100 mmTrail102 mm

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
DiameterDiameter310 mmDiameter320 mm
PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons
ActuationActuationHydraulicActuationHydraulic
TechnologyTechnologyradialTechnologyradial

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
DiameterDiameter256 mmDiameter220 mm

Assistance Systems

Advanced Rider Assistance SystemsAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Riding modes, Ride by Wire, Quickshifter, Traction controlAdvanced Rider Assistance SystemsABS, Suspension electronically adjustable, Riding modes, Cornering ABS, Ride by Wire, Shift assistant with blipper, Cruise control, Traction control, Anti-wheelie

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width120 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height70 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter17 inchFront tyre diameter17 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width190 mmRear tyre width190 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height55 %Rear tyre height55 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter17 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
LengthLength2,120 mmLength2,100 mm
WidthWidth789 mmWidth800 mm
HeightHeight1,090 mmHeight1,165 mm
WheelbaseWheelbase1,455 mmWheelbase1,405 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height830 mmSeat Height835 mm
Kerb Weight (with ABS)Kerb Weight (with ABS)212 kgKerb Weight (with ABS)214 kg
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity16.2 lFuel Tank Capacity17 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA
RangeRange270 kmRange248 km
Combined CO2 emissionsCombined CO2 emissions137 g/kmCombined CO2 emissions159 g/km
Combined fuel consumptionCombined fuel consumption5.9 l/100kmCombined fuel consumption6.83 l/100km

Equipment

EquipmentEquipmentLED-Headlights, TFT displayEquipmentLED-Headlights, TFT display

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023

Noble, dignified and incredibly powerful. The CB1000R Black Edition cuts a fine figure both in front of the opera and on a sporty smoke-up on the country road. Even under full load, the power unit exudes pure composure, while the chassis and brake components also cope well with the power and weight. A great all-round naked bike package that conveys Honda quality through and through.

powerful engine Smooth quickshifter

nimble handling

5 inch TFT display

classy appearance

Seat height could become an obstacle for small pilots

Yamaha MT-10 SP 2023

Yamaha MT-10 SP 2023

The MT-10SP is a beautifully made naked bike. It has placed the exact right ingredients in the right places. It rides comfortably and gets really fast when needed. Basically, it is designed as a country road bike, but is still fun on individual trackdays.

Really great ride comfort

Great balance between sportiness, practicality and ride comfort

Fantastic engine response

Sensitive and practical chassis

High-quality frame including magnificent swingarm

Wonderfully relaxed seating position

Cool but not annoying sound

A real nakedbike

On a racetrack excursion, the bike seems a little too comfortable in the end - this is due to the inactive and comfortable seating position

the front looks a little lumpy

the brakes are good, but still seem undersized on such a top model - there's more to be done.

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price Honda CB1000R Black Edition vs Yamaha MT-10 SP

There are a few key differences between a Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 and a Yamaha MT-10 SP 2023. In terms of price, the actual average price of a Yamaha MT-10 SP 2023 is about 38% higher. Compared to Yamaha MT-10 SP 2023 there are more Honda CB1000R Black Edition 2023 bikes available on the 1000PS.de Marketplace, specifically 58 compared to 23. It takes less time to sell a Yamaha MT-10 SP with 72 days compared to 86 days for the Honda CB1000R Black Edition. Since model year 2021 1000PS.de editors have written 5 reviews for the Honda CB1000R Black Edition and 18 reviews for the Yamaha MT-10 SP since model year 2017. The first review for the Honda CB1000R Black Edition was published on 02/11/2020 and now has more than 97,700 views. This compares to more than 28,600 views for the first review on Yamaha MT-10 SP published on 04/10/2016.

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