Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020 vs. BMW R 1200 GS 2017

Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020

Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020

BMW R 1200 GS 2017

BMW R 1200 GS 2017

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Overview - Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020 vs BMW R 1200 GS 2017

The Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020 and the BMW R 1200 GS 2017 are both enduro motorcycles with similar features and specifications. However, there are some notable differences between the two models.

In terms of engine and drive train, the Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020 is equipped with a V-twin engine with a bore of 84 mm and a stroke of 77 mm. It produces 80 HP of power and 80 Nm of torque. On the other hand, the BMW R 1200 GS 2017 features a boxer engine with a bore of 101 mm and a stroke of 73 mm. It delivers a higher power output of 125 HP and torque of 125 Nm. Both motorcycles have a 2-cylinder configuration and a displacement of 853 ccm for the Moto Guzzi and 1170 ccm for the BMW.

In terms of suspension, the Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020 is equipped with an upside-down telescopic fork at the front and a swing arm suspension at the rear. The front suspension offers preload and rebound adjustment, while the rear suspension only has preload adjustment. On the other hand, the BMW R 1200 GS 2017 features a strut front suspension and a single swing arm rear suspension. The front suspension offers preload adjustment. Both motorcycles have a steel frame for stability and durability.

Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020

Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020

When it comes to braking, both motorcycles are equipped with double disk brakes at the front. This provides excellent stopping power and control. The Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020 has a front tyre diameter of 19 inches and a rear tyre width of 150 mm, while the BMW R 1200 GS 2017 has a front tyre diameter of 19 inches and a rear tyre width of 170 mm. Both motorcycles have a rear tyre diameter of 17 inches.

In terms of dimensions and weights, the Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020 has a wheelbase of 1530 mm and a seat height of 830 mm. It has a kerb weight of 229 kg (with ABS) and a fuel tank capacity of 21 liters. On the other hand, the BMW R 1200 GS 2017 has a slightly shorter wheelbase of 1507 mm and a higher seat height of 850 mm. It has a slightly higher kerb weight of 238 kg (with ABS) and a fuel tank capacity of 20 liters.

BMW R 1200 GS 2017

BMW R 1200 GS 2017

In terms of strengths, the Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020 has a confident engine with a good sound, a maintenance-free Kardan drive, excellent brakes, a good electronics package, well-balanced handling, off-road talent, pleasant ergonomics, splendid looks with noble style elements, and a well-packaged travel package. On the other hand, the BMW R 1200 GS 2017 has a mature concept, a strong engine, easy handling, powerful brakes, adjustable modes and traction control, an extensive equipment range, and a good image and value retention.

In terms of weaknesses, the Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020 has a windshield that can only be adjusted with tools and a digital rev counter that is not particularly easy to read. On the other hand, the BMW R 1200 GS 2017 has many features that come at an extra cost and a boxer engine that is exposed in really tough terrain.

Overall, both the Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020 and the BMW R 1200 GS 2017 are capable enduro motorcycles with their own strengths and weaknesses. The choice between the two would depend on the rider's preferences and priorities.

Technical Specifications Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020 compared to BMW R 1200 GS 2017

Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020
BMW R 1200 GS 2017

Engine and Drive Train

Engine typeEngine typeVEngine typeBoxer
BoreBore84 mmBore101 mm
StrokeStroke77 mmStroke73 mm
Engine powerEngine power80 HPEngine power125 HP
Rpm at Max. PowerRpm at Max. Power7,750 rpmRpm at Max. Power7,700 rpm
TorqueTorque80 NmTorque125 Nm
Rpm at TorqueRpm at Torque5,000 rpmRpm at Torque6,500 rpm
Compression RatioCompression Ratio10.5 Compression Ratio12.5
Clutch TypeClutch TypeToughenedClutch TypeAntihopping
TransmissionTransmissionProp shaftTransmissionProp shaft
Number of gearsNumber of gears6Number of gears6
CylindersCylinders2Cylinders2
StrokesStrokes4-StrokeStrokes4-Stroke
CoolingCoolingOil-airCoolingAir
DisplacementDisplacement853 ccmDisplacement1,170 ccm

Suspension Front

Front suspensionFront suspensionUpside-Down telescopic forkFront suspensionStrut
AdjustmentAdjustmentPreload, ReboundAdjustmentPreload

Suspension Rear

SuspensionSuspensionSwing armSuspensionSingle swing arm
AdjustmentAdjustmentPreloadAdjustmentPreload

Chassis

FrameFrameSteelFrameSteel

Brakes Front

TypeTypeDouble diskTypeDouble disk
PistonPistonFour pistonsPistonFour pistons

Brakes Rear

TypeTypeDiscTypeDisc
PistonPistonDouble pistonPistonDouble piston

Dimensions and Weights

Front tyre widthFront tyre width110 mmFront tyre width120 mm
Front tyre heightFront tyre height80 %Front tyre height70 %
Front tyre diameterFront tyre diameter19 inchFront tyre diameter19 inch
Rear tyre widthRear tyre width150 mmRear tyre width170 mm
Rear tyre heightRear tyre height70 %Rear tyre height60 %
Rear tyre diameterRear tyre diameter17 inchRear tyre diameter17 inch
LengthLength2,240 mmLength2,207 mm
WidthWidth950 mmWidth953 mm
WheelbaseWheelbase1,530 mmWheelbase1,507 mm
Seat HeightSeat Height830 mmSeat Height850 mm
Kerb Weight (with ABS)Kerb Weight (with ABS)229 kgKerb Weight (with ABS)238 kg
Fuel Tank CapacityFuel Tank Capacity21 lFuel Tank Capacity20 l
License compliancyLicense compliancyALicense compliancyA

Pros and Cons in comparison

Pros and Cons in comparison

Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020

Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020

With the V85 TT Travel, Moto Guzzi impressively demonstrates how modernity can be combined with tradition, just as with the conventional V85 TT. Typical stylistic elements are skilfully reminiscent of the almost 100-year-old Heritage, the Travel's noble Sabbia Namib paint finish fits in perfectly, while the state-of-the-art technology ensures that the V85 TT is a credible touring enduro. The engine convinces with a lot of sovereignty instead of pointed sportiness, the handling is neutral and good-natured and the off-road talents are remarkable. Added to this is the well-tied electronics package, excellent brakes and successful ergonomics. The travel package has been well thought out with a set of luggage, larger windshield, heated grips, LED auxiliary headlights and multimedia system MIA - and the cardan, which is unique in this class, makes the Travel the ideal travel companion!

Confident engine with good sound

maintenance-free Krdan drive

excellent brakes

good electronics package

well-balanced handling

off-road talent available

pleasant ergonomics

splendid looks with noble style elements

well-packaged travel package.

Windshield only adjustable with tools

digital rev counter not particularly easy to read

BMW R 1200 GS 2017

BMW R 1200 GS 2017

For over 35 years, BMW has continued to expand the boxer range and is consistently working on the evolution of the GS. In addition to the EURO4 update of the engine with new catalytic converter and mapping, there are now even more features such as the Dynamic ESA Next Generation with automatic riding position compensation, which further improves stability and comfort for the rider. With its subtle colour scheme, the Exclusive version is intended for friends of a neat and subdued appearance and, unlike the flashier Rallye variant, is designed more for the road. Many features are at extra cost, but GS customers usually don't care - 90 percent are ordered with full equipment.

Mature concept

strong engine

easy handling

powerful brakes

adjustable modes and traction control

extensive equipment range

good image and value retention.

many features at extra cost

boxer exposed in really tough terrain

Price Comparison Avarage Market Price Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel vs BMW R 1200 GS

There are a few key differences between a Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel 2020 and a BMW R 1200 GS 2017. It takes less time to sell a BMW R 1200 GS with 72 days compared to 159 days for the Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel. Since model year 2020 1000PS.de editors have written 3 reviews for the Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel and 98 reviews for the BMW R 1200 GS since model year 2005. The first review for the Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel was published on 16/04/2020 and now has more than 17,900 views. This compares to more than 19,100 views for the first review on BMW R 1200 GS published on 20/01/2004.

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